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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Jennings 5 Ballance 5 Root 9 YJB 7 Stokes 6 Mo 10 Dawson 5 Wood 5 Broad 7 Anderson 6 |
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I think all the ratings are pretty low considering we absolutely twatted South Africa
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#24 |
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Cambridge
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Should the ratings consider the calibre and performance of the opposition ?
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I think you, and several others on here, need to live in the moment a bit more. Instead of droning on about how we lost to India or scaremongering about the forthcoming Ashes, why don't you try to enjoy England's 200 run win over a team they haven't beaten at home since a dead rubber in 2008?
Until we have a team packed with the modern day equivalents of Garner/Holding/Marshall etc and McGrath, Warne, Tendulkar, Gilchrist, I'm afraid we are going to lose some test matches and series from time to time, and undermining every good performance with whinging about past or future series isn't going to change that fact. We can only hope that the selectors play the best team we have available for each game and that team does the best that it can, enjoy it when it comes off, and take it on the chin and reassess if it doesn't.
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Most heartless decision: In a women's league match in Denmark, a heavily pregnant woman arrived at the crease, and asked for a runner. Her request was denied, on the grounds that her incapacity had not occured during the course of the match. Last edited by luckyluke : 11th July 2017 at 17:56. Reason: Our home record against SA is shitter than I'd remembered |
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Absolutely spot on. In fact, part of the fun of supporting England is their constantly mercurial character...which, to be honest, has been the case ever since Test cricket began. You never know what you're going to get, which is surely manna from heaven for a sports fan? |
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Only when one wants an excuse to discredit a commonly derided England player.
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Do what you like mate, but there's enough crap going on in the world to castatrophize about without adding the cricket to the mix, so in the interests of your general well-being I'd advise cheering the **** up.
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Might I just say I have nothing against Broad, Stokes and Anderson. They were innocuous. Stokes got a 50 and sub 10 and Ballance got about the same. Stokes bowled tripe. Dawson? Tell me again why he got picked ahead of Rashid. Mo fully deserved the MoM ahead of Rootster. Yes 190 to his name but I thought his captaincy was rather conservative. Jimmy and Stu were getting it up around 85-87 at times but a lot of it was low eighties.
Given that "there has been some weather about", Trent Bridge should be a serious Test. Bonehead Rabada is sadly out. If the sun comes, the seamers should be rubbing their hands in glee. "Ha, Mr Amla isn't it? I'm sure you know where my first ball is going hehehe" I also rejoice in kicking Saffer butt. 211 runs is a big win. Other sides will not be so lenient, if we lose 4-6 wickets in a morning session.
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Judging from recent discussions on the "spin conundrum" thread, this question should be split into two questions. Firstly, why was Rashid not picked? Answer, because the selectors think he's not good enough. Secondly, why was Dawson picked? Well, you saw the pitch. The seamers were largely ineffective, especially in the second innings, so a second spinner was a no-brainer, and bearing in mind the answer to question one, it obviously had to be Dawson, who didn't do badly in the previous test.
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Jimmy's always been on the lower side of the pace scale but his swing and accuracy always made up for it and to a certain extent, still does.
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As for the Rashid v Dawson question, I feel it should not even be a question. Rashid is England's most in form bowler when it comes to ODI cricket and he has been doing pretty well in tests too. On top of all that, he is a very good batsmen when he has enough time to bat, so why Dawson was picked is beyond me or anyone with an ounce of sense.
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Would definitely pick Rashid over Dawson. I think there was a line pushed that Dawson would bowl tight while Moeen bowled loose and took wickets (as is his way) but given that Dawson didn't bowl all that tight you're better off with the wicket-taker and the variety if you have two spinners.
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Most heartless decision: In a women's league match in Denmark, a heavily pregnant woman arrived at the crease, and asked for a runner. Her request was denied, on the grounds that her incapacity had not occured during the course of the match. |
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Both have relied on control and movement over pace in recent times. Yes, they could reach the nineties in times gone by but those who bowl that fast for extended periods don't have lengthy Test careers. Look at Mitch Johnson and Dale Steyn.
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