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Old 29th August 2008, 23:09   #121
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Yeah he's done very, very well, and he is built like a mini Hercules. Suddenly England's lower order looks full of runs with Patel 7, Wright 8 and Broad 9, can see us winning some games when 5 or 6 down, we now have excellent strength and depth.

Mind you as well as England have played, I'd like to see how we do against a side who's interested in winning, I've never seen a SA side look so poor and uninterested.
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Old 30th August 2008, 00:19   #122
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I echo what everyone else has said about Patel's fielding - I've been very impressed with this aspect of his game. He's similar in build to Michael Yardy but worlds apart in terms of talent and athleticism.

His batting looks very promising indeed and he managed to score at strike rate close to 100 despite not really being a power player. Given his impressive first class average he could possibly have a future as a middle order batsmen in the test team.

His bowling is certainly decent too, very much in the Jayasuriya mould. I was particularly impressed with the way he kept his head and varied his flight to good effect once Albie Morkel got hold of him; something that Monty has failed to do at ODI level.
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Old 2nd September 2008, 16:54   #123
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From Cricinfo, just as an example of what he can do: "In 2006, however, Patel finally began to show signs of realising his potential, scoring 156 not out against Middlesex, an innings in which he went from 100 to 150 in just 17 balls." That's not the only time he's scored fast either - and he's had to learn that scoring fast isn't always the right thing to attempt.
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Old 6th September 2008, 23:11   #124
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“I am fitter than I look,” he said. “If you ask Richard Halsall [the England fielding coach] who are the best fielders, my name will come up - Paul Collingwood, Ian Bell, Ravi Bopara and myself. I field in a key position at square leg and when Collingwood bowls, I am at backward point. I am cricket-fit.”

His fielding is better than I thought it would be but I wouldn't say he was one of the best fielders. Flintoff is better.

A couple of times when the ball was nearing the boundary rope and within 5 feet of him he didn't dive.
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Old 6th September 2008, 23:15   #125
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“I am fitter than I look,” he said. “If you ask Richard Halsall [the England fielding coach] who are the best fielders, my name will come up - Paul Collingwood, Ian Bell, Ravi Bopara and myself. I field in a key position at square leg and when Collingwood bowls, I am at backward point. I am cricket-fit.”

His fielding is better than I thought it would be but I wouldn't say he was one of the best fielders. Flintoff is better.

A couple of times when the ball was nearing the boundary rope and within 5 feet of him he didn't dive.
Flintoff is an absolutely first rate fielder though, even if he does drop the odd one at slip. Pietersen is one of the best outfielders I've ever seen too but he does seem to feel the need to give away overthrows distressingly often.

It's all very well saying "I'm cricket fit" and certainly plenty of chubbers have had success in the game but that's still not a great excuse for being overweight. He'd be quicker about the field and between the wickets if he lost some fat; it's fairly basic power to weight ratio stuff.
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Old 10th October 2008, 00:50   #126
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cri...n-Cricket.html

He's only been in the side 5 minutes. Glad he never played under Vaughan and Collingwood. Hmm
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Wonder how his teammate Paul Collingwood will take that criticism? Doesn't seem the brightest, he'd probably be best off just letting his cricket do the talking.
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Old 10th October 2008, 11:48   #128
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I didn't think Collingwood did a bad job. It's much easier to be a 'positive' captain with Flintoff in the side meaning you effectively have an extra player, plus Harmison. Colly didn't really have that, apart from an injured Fred against India. Vaughan was at a disadvantage because he had himself in the team in all honesty, plus Fletcher seemed to think ODIs were a breeding ground for Test cricket rather than matches worth winning
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Old 10th October 2008, 16:52   #129
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Colly was in something of an impossible position, i dont suippose he ever felt as if he was much more than a stop gap given the job so vaughan could keep the test job. Even if he had ideas about the side's approach or selection he was never gin a position to throw his weight around. He just had to do his best with whatever the coach and selectors sent him.
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Old 10th October 2008, 17:46   #130
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Wonder how his teammate Paul Collingwood will take that criticism? Doesn't seem the brightest, he'd probably be best off just letting his cricket do the talking.
I wonder also how his county take it?

KP was of course at Notts, until KP had a falling out with Notts over their approach.
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The full article is in Spin magazine. Maybe that will put his comments in context. I must say I don't think he has the right to criticise two captains he's never played under.
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Old 10th October 2008, 22:21   #132
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“I am fitter than I look,” he said. “If you ask Richard Halsall [the England fielding coach] who are the best fielders, my name will come up - Paul Collingwood, Ian Bell, Ravi Bopara and myself. I field in a key position at square leg and when Collingwood bowls, I am at backward point. I am cricket-fit.”

His fielding is better than I thought it would be but I wouldn't say he was one of the best fielders. Flintoff is better.

A couple of times when the ball was nearing the boundary rope and within 5 feet of him he didn't dive.
Not to mention Anderson.

I don't think it becomes Samit to blow his own trumpet in this way.
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Well he has only seen one side of Pietersen at the moment. I will be interested to re-read his article after the India ODI series. If he thinks the team is going to win it he is in for a surprise. Probably after the SA ODIs he must have thought that international cricket is easy.
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Old 11th October 2008, 00:12   #134
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Not to mention Anderson.

I don't think it becomes Samit to blow his own trumpet in this waynot acknowledge Saint Jimmy as the greatest cricketer to have ever stepped foot on the planet.
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That was of course what I meant.
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No, of course it wasn't what I meant. Why is every post I make about anything in the world assumed to be really about Anderson as if he is the sole reason for my being interested in cricket?

I know it's wummery but sometimes it bloody gets on my nerves. I only mentioned him there because he is one of our best fielders as everyone acknowledges.

I have been impressed with Patel on the field but am not so impressed by these comments which sound a little arrogant for someone who has only played a handful of games. It would be best to read the whole interview though as the extract quoted may be out of context.
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No, of course it wasn't what I meant. Why is every post I make about anything in the world assumed to be really about Anderson as if he is the sole reason for my being interested in cricket?
Because somehow you manage to crowbar Anderson into every other post and take slight at any time someone fails to praise him?

I mean you manage to somehow get a mention of Jimmy Anderson into a post about Samit Patel's arrogance (or otherwise).
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Because somehow you manage to crowbar Anderson into every other post and take slight at any time someone fails to praise him?

I mean you manage to somehow get a mention of Jimmy Anderson into a post about Samit Patel's arrogance (or otherwise).
I have written thousands of posts that have absolutely nothing to do with Anderson. In this instance Samit is quoted as naming the best fielders in the side, which happen to include himself. Given that David Lloyd has acclaimed Anderson as the best fast bowler fielder in the world I thought he at least deserved a mention in addition to the ones Patel names.

As for taking slight any time someone fails to praise him, I realise that on this board nobody will ever give him credit for his bowling (even when it is deserved) because of the prevailing view that because he has three female fans he must be rubbish, so I no longer take slight at this. For one thing, most of the professional pundits have a lot more time for him than you lot so I wonder exactly who is out of step? For some reason though you are prepared to accept that he's not a bad fielder, so I can't see how you can object to my comments in this context.

Maybe it's the end of season blues and no English cricket for a bit, but frankly I am getting just a little sick of this board. It's just habit that keeps me coming back. That could change.
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Old 11th October 2008, 08:29   #139
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These comments aren't taken out of context when you read the whole article. Frankly he comes across as arrogant and over the top ("we can win the world cup", "once Im in I'm unstoppable" - or words to that effect).

Oh and he also once took 7 wickets for one run V Warwicks under 11's so can get stuffed. Although, frankly, in one sideways on picture accompanying the article he looks as if he already has been.

Michelle, George Dobell in Spin gives Jimmy an honourable mention as one of his bowlers of the season.
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