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Old 11th October 2008, 13:34   #141
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I have written thousands of posts that have absolutely nothing to do with Anderson. In this instance Samit is quoted as naming the best fielders in the side, which happen to include himself. Given that David Lloyd has acclaimed Anderson as the best fast bowler fielder in the world I thought he at least deserved a mention in addition to the ones Patel names.

As for taking slight any time someone fails to praise him, I realise that on this board nobody will ever give him credit for his bowling (even when it is deserved) because of the prevailing view that because he has three female fans he must be rubbish, so I no longer take slight at this. For one thing, most of the professional pundits have a lot more time for him than you lot so I wonder exactly who is out of step? For some reason though you are prepared to accept that he's not a bad fielder, so I can't see how you can object to my comments in this context.

Maybe it's the end of season blues and no English cricket for a bit, but frankly I am getting just a little sick of this board. It's just habit that keeps me coming back. That could change.
MF, I thought you knew not to take anything gbg posts seriously by now.

Do we really think Anderson's bowling is dodgy because he has three female fans or might there possibly be other reasons?
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Old 11th October 2008, 13:37   #142
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because he has three female fans he must be rubbish
Whose the 3rd?

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Old 11th October 2008, 13:38   #143
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Old 11th October 2008, 17:00   #144
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Old 12th October 2008, 20:35   #145
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Having read the full article in Spin I think probably that Samit is just being enthusiastic and positive rather than arrogant. There is nothing in the full interview that contradicts anything in the newspaper accounts but he is a young player just thrilled to be playing for England and enjoying every minute. He endorses Pietersen's captaincy style but he really isn't in a position to criticise Vaughan and Collingwood as he only has second hand reports to go by. So his comments are inappropriate and unsubstantiated, but I think he is just very excited by the Pietersen era and got a bit carried away with his frank comments.
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Old 12th October 2008, 20:59   #146
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Having read the full article in Spin I think probably that Samit is just being enthusiastic and positive rather than arrogant. There is nothing in the full interview that contradicts anything in the newspaper accounts but he is a young player just thrilled to be playing for England and enjoying every minute. He endorses Pietersen's captaincy style but he really isn't in a position to criticise Vaughan and Collingwood as he only has second hand reports to go by. So his comments are inappropriate and unsubstantiated, but I think he is just very excited by the Pietersen era and got a bit carried away with his frank comments.
That all sounds very likely. There's also the possibility that he's been misquoted or quoted out of context - but I don't think that's the case here, though I've seen plenty of examples of just that.

It must be very easy for a relatively young or inexperienced person to give a slightly unfortunate impression in an interview. After all, most of us have had our words on this board taken in a way we didn't intend.
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Old 12th October 2008, 21:53   #148
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Old 12th October 2008, 21:54   #149
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Old 12th October 2008, 21:58   #150
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Old 16th October 2008, 00:08   #152
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I wonder also how his county take it?
Must have missed the bit where he mentions Notts....... so can't really see how its relevant.

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KP was of course at Notts, until KP had a falling out with Notts over their approach.
Quite like to know more about KP's falling out with Notts over their approach. What kind of approach are we talking, illegal, negative, stealthy, or are we talking golf?

Or would you be concluding that KP thought Notts were negative in their approach and that's why he fell out with them.
That's the biggest stretch of the KP/Notts saga since a certain ScottWoz of BBC Read/Jones debates claimed Read should be kept out of the england side because he was the cause of the problem between KP and Notts.

Thanks gbg you actually made me smile.
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Old 4th March 2009, 12:50   #153
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Samit Patel is now officially the new Flintoff.

I think this a good move by the England management and I only hope that it serves as a wake-up to this gifted cricketer and he realises what it takes to be the best is more than what it takes to dominate county cricket.
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Old 4th March 2009, 12:59   #154
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Patel does come across as a bit big for his boots in more ways than one. I hope he can knuckle down and show the dedication needed to be a high-class international cricketer
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Old 4th March 2009, 13:08   #155
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Big for his boots? I saw him in Nottingham half a year or so ago and he struck me as being a top bloke, especially considering I was a total randomer who just happened to recognise him. He believes in his own ability and undoubtedly wants to reach the top, but he has knuckled down in the past few years and improved his game tenfold. He took up the mantle that Hussey left behind and proved his credentials last season (and since). Maybe there's a touch of arrogance in there, but given the wimpy cricketers England are producing nowadays that can only be a good thing. His fitness is perhaps an ongoing question but he is heading in the right direction. I've never personally thought it's that big a problem to have a bit of a belly as a batsman. Samit is by all accounts cricket fit, doesn't have to hide in the field and is capable of compiling hundreds.
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This is what the ECB had to say

Patel had a pre Tour fitness Test and was warned to improve his fitness and then had another one on tour and both were said to be unsatisfactory.

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Old 4th March 2009, 13:49   #157
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So what? Flintoff keeps getting picked despite being able to only play half the games, I'm pretty sure Patel could manage more than that.
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Old 4th March 2009, 14:03   #158
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I think that it is the correct way to pick a cricket team. Have them all run a marathon and the first 11 make the side. If that fat useless waster Warne had been an Englishman I, for one, would never have had him near the test side.
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I think that it is the correct way to pick a cricket team. Have them all run a marathon and the first 11 make the side. If that fat useless waster Warne had been an Englishman I, for one, would never have had him near the test side.
A marathon is probably going a bit far.

Ramnaresh Sarwan in the last test scored 291, which is the equivalent of running 6402 yards. Obviously he had to run his partners runs as well and the West Indies total was the equivalent of just over 15,000m. That was also having been in the field for 2 days and doing much leather chasing.

Whilst they won't have run all 749 runs, only a few shots will they have been able to stand and admire without running to the other end. Even if Sarwan ran a single and it went for four, he'd have to jog back to the other end, so he'd still end up running half of the runs scored off boundaries.

You need good physical fitness to be able to bat for long periods of time. When the body tires it is harder to concentrate. Samit Patel's top score is almost half Sarwan's top-score.

Besides concentration and physical fitness, I believe to succeed at the highest level you also need dedication. You have to want it. The most worrying aspect to this is that it suggests Patel doesn't want it badly enough.

I hope this is the wake-up call he needs. Flintoff needed several, but eventually it clicked and he became a top class international. I hope the same happens with Samit Patel and I'll be listening eagerly to reports to see how he reacts to this situation.
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Poeple who tested him must be different to the ones who have tested Harmsison so often. Probably do him good though Im not sure a few weeks in the heat of the WI being forced to get up to scratch would have hurt either.
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