Bowlers and Bowling

[1000yardstare]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cr...realistic.html

Bowling with the new ball
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...s;type=bowling

He is right in that they are all opening bowlers and probably all want the new ball but Root doesn't give the opening bowlers long spells so first change will get the ball 9 overs old. A good time as the lacquer has worn off and it starts to swing.

Another thing I find is that a longer spell is more likely to take wickets. Anderson usually gets 4 overs but when he has had a 6 over opening spell he gets wickets in the 5th and 6th over. Seen Broad given 3 overs spells. 2nd Test 1st innings his spells 5,3,3,3,2. 0 wickets. What is the point, he is just getting warmed up.

McGrath has been known to bowl 12 over opening spells. He can't understand why our bowlers get such short overs. Although in Archer and Wood's case you would only want to give them 4 at the most.

90mph
Feel that Wood can bowl short spells of 90+. Maybe Archer could do that if he was given 4 overs but once he has the ball in his hand Root gives him 7 or 8 overs

Usually expect a 90mph bowler to average 88mph throughout the day like Lee and Steyn. Archer seems to not have one speed he bowls at. Through the over he bowls all sorts of different speeds. Maybe that's his variations.

https://wisden.com/analysis/cricviz-...e-jofra-archer

[ConfusedMale]

Probably the proliferation of T20s make the faster bowlers feel the need to mix up their pace a lot.

[Ali TT]

I don't think England, or for that matter Archer himself, have quite worked out what type of bowler they want Archer to be. I'm not actually convinced that getting him to steam in for 4-over spells is the best use of him, I think he's a more skillful bowler than that.

Steyn varied his pace quite a bit. With the new ball at the start of the day, he might be bowling 83-4mph, but his most ferocious spells might come in the evening session with the old ball.

[geoff_boycotts_grandmother]

Originally Posted by Ali TT

I don't think England, or for that matter Archer himself, have quite worked out what type of bowler they want Archer to be. I'm not actually convinced that getting him to steam in for 4-over spells is the best use of him, I think he's a more skillful bowler than that.

Steyn varied his pace quite a bit. With the new ball at the start of the day, he might be bowling 83-4mph, but his most ferocious spells might come in the evening session with the old ball.

Why seek to limit him?

[Ali TT]

Originally Posted by geoff_boycotts_grandmother

Why seek to limit him?

[1000yardstare]

Bowlers at English grounds

Edgbaston
Curran 18.40
Anderson 22.02
Broad 23.62
Woakes 26.22
Stokes 29.33

Headingley
Archer 10.62
Curran 21.50
Broad 26.30
Anderson 27.12
Wood 31.80
Woakes 35.00
Stokes 43.12

Lords
Woakes 11.33
Archer 18.20
Curran 20.25
Anderson 23.89
Broad 27.06
Stokes 32.52
Wood 52.50

Old Trafford
Woakes 18.47
Broad 19.65
Anderson 24.29
Curran 33.33
Stokes 36.57
Archer 40.50

Oval
Archer 21.33
Curran 22.33
Anderson 31.84
Woakes 34.77
Broad 35.32
Stokes 36.22
Wood 59.00

Riverside
Broad 16.57
Anderson 17.68
Woakes 22.40

Rose Bowl
Stokes 16.11
Anderson 21.61
Broad 24.93
Curran 28.66
Wood 55.00
Archer 59.33
Woakes 97.00

Sophia Gardens
Wood 29.75
Anderson 31.50
Broad 36.20
Stokes 74.00

Trent Bridge
Anderson 19.62
Broad 22.20
Stokes 29.28
Woakes 31.00
Wood 52.75

[luckyluke]

Broad’s average at Lord’s looks higher than I’d have thought. He must have taken a bit of tap from Australia etc in between skittling south Asian teams

[luckyluke]

Yep, 35 against Australia, 55 against SA. 46 against Sri Lanka! Everyone else 23 or lower

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...type =bowling

[1000yardstare]

Fast bowlers for Ashes in Australia
(Anderson, Broad, Archer, Wood, Stone, Stokes)

Brisbane - Broad, Wood, Archer, Stokes
Adelaide - Anderson, Wood, Stone, Stokes
Perth - Wood, Archer, Stone, Stokes
Melbourne - Anderson, Broad, Wood, Stokes
Sydney - Anderson, Archer, Wood, Stokes

Broad v Warner & Smith .. 20 wickets (4/1 in Aus)
Anderson v Warner & Smith 15 wickets (4/5 in Aus)

Could be completely different bowlers due to injuries...
Overtons, Robinson, Garton, Woakes, Curran, Mahmood, Topley, Roland Jones

[gmdf]

Originally Posted by 1000yardstare

Fast bowlers for Ashes in Australia
(Anderson, Broad, Archer, Wood, Stone, Stokes)

Brisbane - Broad, Wood, Archer, Stokes
Adelaide - Anderson, Wood, Stone, Stokes
Perth - Wood, Archer, Stone, Stokes
Melbourne - Anderson, Broad, Wood, Stokes
Sydney - Anderson, Archer, Wood, Stokes

Broad v Warner & Smith .. 20 wickets (4/1 in Aus)
Anderson v Warner & Smith 15 wickets (4/5 in Aus)

Could be completely different bowlers due to injuries...
Overtons, Robinson, Garton, Woakes, Curran, Mahmood, Topley, Roland Jones

Wood fit for 5 Tests? I'm afraid I can't see that is likely!

[1000yardstare]

Originally Posted by gmdf

Wood fit for 5 Tests? I'm afraid I can't see that is likely!

You are right, Archer in Adelaide and Stone in Melbourne. Who will be the 6 bowlers for Australia?

He is bowling now v Lancs 3-0-20-0

[Sir Coolerking]

Originally Posted by 1000yardstare

You are right, Archer in Adelaide and Stone in Melbourne. Who will be the 6 bowlers for Australia?

He is bowling now v Lancs 3-0-20-0

Stone fit for 3 Tests????

[Notts Exile]

Topley? In a Test Match?

[Ali TT]

Originally Posted by Notts Exile

Topley? In a Test Match?

Speaking of lefties, what about that Tymal Mills?

[1000yardstare]

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[1000yardstare]

Interesting to see

http://www.howstat.com/cricket/Stati...mbinations.asp

Southee/Wagner 9.25 wickets per match!

[Sir Coolerking]

Originally Posted by 1000yardstare

Interesting to see

http://www.howstat.com/cricket/Stati...mbinations.asp

Southee/Wagner 9.25 wickets per match!

I tell you what I love about that list - who is the first player to appear in 2 different combinations? It's flaming Kallis again!!

[Sir Virgs and Zamora]

Originally Posted by 1000yardstare

Interesting to see

http://www.howstat.com/cricket/Stati...mbinations.asp

Southee/Wagner 9.25 wickets per match!

Imagine how good a bowler would need to be to appear in the top 7 TWICE

[Sir Virgs and Zamora]

Originally Posted by Sir Coolerking

I tell you what I love about that list - who is the first player to appear in 2 different combinations? It's flaming Kallis again!!

Hahahahaha

[1000yardstare]

Bowlers still bowling

611 - Anderson (38)
517 - Broad (34)
401 - Ashwin (34)
399 - Lyon (33)
303 - Sharma (32)
302 - Southee (32)
281 - Boult (31)
255 - Starc (30)
235 - Shah (34)
220 - Jadeja (31)
219 - Wagner (34)
212 - Hazelwood (29)
210 - Al Hasan (33)
205 - Roach (32)
202 - Rabada (25)

189 - Ali
180 - Shami
164 - Cummins
161 - Perera
159 - Stokes
151 - Lakmal
150 - Gabriel
148 - Yadav
125 - Finn
120 - Maharaj
118 - Islam
117 - Bishoo
116 - Holder
112 - Woakes

Milestones last 12 months
Anderson 600
Broad 500
Ashwin 400
Sharma 300
Southee 300
Hazelwood 200
Rabada 200
Roach 200