The World Test Championship - Page 10

Sir Coolerking · 28th January 2021, 11:38

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Originally Posted by luckyluke

If that were to happen, then for all the gnashing of teeth re the WTC you’d say an England India final would be fair enough. Would seem fairer if it was at a neutral venue though.

It wouldn't be an England India Final though, it would be against NZ.

The only way NZ don't play in the Final is if both India and Australia win at least 2-0.

Here's a link to the connotations....
https://twitter.com/Mykuhl/status/1353859432917032960

Jock McTuffnel v3 · 28th January 2021, 12:50

As per the current regulations WTC league standings would be determined by the percentage of points (PCT) earned by teams. PCT is the percentage of points won out of the total number of points contested by each team.

PCT as on 19/1/2021 - India (71.7), New Zealand (70.0), Australia (69.2), England (65.2), South Africa (40.0)

Sir Coolerking · 28th January 2021, 13:20

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Originally Posted by Jock McTuffnel v3

As per the current regulations WTC league standings would be determined by the percentage of points (PCT) earned by teams. PCT is the percentage of points won out of the total number of points contested by each team.

PCT as on 19/1/2021 - India (71.7), New Zealand (70.0), Australia (69.2), England (65.2), South Africa (40.0)

So basically, if you only contest 2 Test series at home, you're laughing!!

tony p · 29th January 2021, 09:09

So the two Tests that England have scheduled to play N.Z. in June, don't count for the World Test Championship.?

Will they count for the next one, or are they just being played to make money.

Sir Coolerking · 29th January 2021, 09:26

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Originally Posted by tony p

So the two Tests that England have scheduled to play N.Z. in June, don't count for the World Test Championship.?

Will they count for the next one, or are they just being played to make money.

I have a feeling there probably won't be another one, there seems little demand for it and the new ICC head has suggested it may well be the last.

sanskritsimon · 29th January 2021, 11:37

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Originally Posted by tony p

So the two Tests that England have scheduled to play N.Z. in June, don't count for the World Test Championship.?

Will they count for the next one, or are they just being played to make money.

They are just being played so that Sky can make money. Or rather, take it from others -- that money will not be "made", as it already exists.

Jock McTuffnel v3 · 29th January 2021, 12:18

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Originally Posted by Sir Coolerking

I have a feeling there probably won't be another one, there seems little demand for it and the new ICC head has suggested it may well be the last.

Shame as it could be good - but the rules need altered to stop cynical fixture manipulation as NZ have done.

Sir Coolerking · 29th January 2021, 12:27

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Originally Posted by sanskritsimon

They are just being played so that Sky can make money. Or rather, take it from others -- that money will not be "made", as it already exists.

Or you could look at it the other way, the free to view broadcasters only start showing an interest when they're guaranteed a decent audience. Funny how they've raised their heads for a series with India during Lockdown but none shown for the Kiwis in the summer.

We should be thankful for Sky's coverage. If Channel 4 were to show a Test against India it would be the first ever overseas Test shown on free to view. Before Sky, no one showed any interest.

Aidan11 · 2nd February 2021, 11:40

NZ are in the final as a result of Australia not going to SA.

Jock McTuffnel v3 · 2nd February 2021, 11:41

Oz vs Saffers tour is off.

Does that mean England just need to win the series to qualify for the final ?

Sir Coolerking · 2nd February 2021, 12:35

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Originally Posted by Jock McTuffnel v3

Oz vs Saffers tour is off.

Does that mean England just need to win the series to qualify for the final ?

Yes, the Aussies now cannot qualify and NZ are guaranteed.

But does anyone really care? The Aussies clearly don't.

Aidan11 · 2nd February 2021, 12:36

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Originally Posted by Sir Coolerking

Yes, the Aussies now cannot qualify and NZ are guaranteed.

But does anyone really care? The Aussies clearly don't.

Neither do I.

Sir Coolerking · 2nd February 2021, 12:44

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Originally Posted by Aidan11

Neither do I.

It would make sense for them to abandon it to be honest. The qualification process was flawed before Covid got involved. I'm not sure any team winning it can really claim much kudos in the current situation. Whilst India's win in Brisbane will live long in the history books of Test Cricket, I'm really not sure a one off at Lord's against NZ will do likewise.

MRNC4.0 · 2nd February 2021, 12:59

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Originally Posted by Sir Coolerking

Yes, the Aussies now cannot qualify and NZ are guaranteed.

But does anyone really care? The Aussies clearly don't.

As bizarre as it sounds, Australia can still qualify depending on the results of the Ind/Eng series (the permutations hurt my brain) and if they did, that would further make a farce of what is already a farcical tournament.

Sir Coolerking · 2nd February 2021, 14:15

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Originally Posted by MRNC4.0

As bizarre as it sounds, Australia can still qualify depending on the results of the Ind/Eng series (the permutations hurt my brain) and if they did, that would further make a farce of what is already a farcical tournament.

Yes, I've just seen the updated tables. It's actually more knocked England out than the Aussies (as bizarre as that seems). England need to win at least 3-1 to go through (not going to happen).

If England were to win 2-0 it would be an Australia v NZ Final. The same if it's a 1-0 win for India!!

This ridiculous competition just got even more farcical.

Aidan11 · 2nd February 2021, 17:39

I think this clarifies things ...

https://www.facebook.com/18429207554...7910267877555/

offa59 · 2nd February 2021, 19:30

The way things are going with Covid, the chances of spectators watching the game at Lords are getting slimmer by the day.

square leg umpire · 2nd February 2021, 19:43

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Originally Posted by Jock McTuffnel v3

Oz vs Saffers tour is off.

Does that mean England just need to win the series to qualify for the final ?

Pity as it would have been a good series. Though with both sides better in the bowling than the batting I don't think any of the tests would have lasted 5 days.

ConfusedMale · 3rd February 2021, 06:56

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Originally Posted by MRNC4.0

As bizarre as it sounds, Australia can still qualify depending on the results of the Ind/Eng series (the permutations hurt my brain) and if they did, that would further make a farce of what is already a farcical tournament.

Australia would have been ahead of NZ but for some slow over rate at Melbourne! Wonder if they really care, though.

Sir Coolerking · 3rd February 2021, 09:32

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Originally Posted by ConfusedMale

Australia would have been ahead of NZ but for some slow over rate at Melbourne! Wonder if they really care, though.

They would have to fly to England and presumably quarantine for a few days. Play a Test then fly back to Australia and quarantine again. That's having just played the IPL too. You're right, I doubt they care.

But why slow over rates are impacted here rather than in their pockets seems questionable.

28th January 2021, 12:50	#182
Jock McTuffnel v3 Posting God Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cambridge Team(s): England Posts: 10,513	As per the current regulations WTC league standings would be determined by the percentage of points (PCT) earned by teams. PCT is the percentage of points won out of the total number of points contested by each team. PCT as on 19/1/2021 - India (71.7), New Zealand (70.0), Australia (69.2), England (65.2), South Africa (40.0) __________________

2nd February 2021, 11:41	#190
Jock McTuffnel v3 Posting God Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cambridge Team(s): England Posts: 10,513	Oz vs Saffers tour is off. Does that mean England just need to win the series to qualify for the final ? __________________

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29th January 2021, 09:09	#184
tony p County Pro Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Perth Team(s): Richmond,Tasmania, Kent, Australia. Posts: 613	So the two Tests that England have scheduled to play N.Z. in June, don't count for the World Test Championship.? Will they count for the next one, or are they just being played to make money.

2nd February 2021, 11:40	#189
Aidan11 Harmisonesque Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Somewhere cold and wet Posts: 43,399	NZ are in the final as a result of Australia not going to SA.

2nd February 2021, 17:39	#196
Aidan11 Harmisonesque Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Somewhere cold and wet Posts: 43,399	I think this clarifies things ... https://www.facebook.com/18429207554...7910267877555/

2nd February 2021, 19:30	#197
offa59 Club Cricketer Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 171	The way things are going with Covid, the chances of spectators watching the game at Lords are getting slimmer by the day.