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Old 28th January 2021, 11:38   #181
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If that were to happen, then for all the gnashing of teeth re the WTC you’d say an England India final would be fair enough. Would seem fairer if it was at a neutral venue though.
It wouldn't be an England India Final though, it would be against NZ.

The only way NZ don't play in the Final is if both India and Australia win at least 2-0.

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Old 28th January 2021, 12:50   #182
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As per the current regulations WTC league standings would be determined by the percentage of points (PCT) earned by teams. PCT is the percentage of points won out of the total number of points contested by each team.

PCT as on 19/1/2021 - India (71.7), New Zealand (70.0), Australia (69.2), England (65.2), South Africa (40.0)
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Old 28th January 2021, 13:20   #183
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As per the current regulations WTC league standings would be determined by the percentage of points (PCT) earned by teams. PCT is the percentage of points won out of the total number of points contested by each team.

PCT as on 19/1/2021 - India (71.7), New Zealand (70.0), Australia (69.2), England (65.2), South Africa (40.0)
So basically, if you only contest 2 Test series at home, you're laughing!!
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Old 29th January 2021, 09:09   #184
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So the two Tests that England have scheduled to play N.Z. in June, don't count for the World Test Championship.?

Will they count for the next one, or are they just being played to make money.
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Old 29th January 2021, 09:26   #185
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So the two Tests that England have scheduled to play N.Z. in June, don't count for the World Test Championship.?

Will they count for the next one, or are they just being played to make money.
I have a feeling there probably won't be another one, there seems little demand for it and the new ICC head has suggested it may well be the last.
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Old 29th January 2021, 11:37   #186
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So the two Tests that England have scheduled to play N.Z. in June, don't count for the World Test Championship.?

Will they count for the next one, or are they just being played to make money.
They are just being played so that Sky can make money. Or rather, take it from others -- that money will not be "made", as it already exists.
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Old 29th January 2021, 12:18   #187
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I have a feeling there probably won't be another one, there seems little demand for it and the new ICC head has suggested it may well be the last.
Shame as it could be good - but the rules need altered to stop cynical fixture manipulation as NZ have done.
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Old 29th January 2021, 12:27   #188
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They are just being played so that Sky can make money. Or rather, take it from others -- that money will not be "made", as it already exists.
Or you could look at it the other way, the free to view broadcasters only start showing an interest when they're guaranteed a decent audience. Funny how they've raised their heads for a series with India during Lockdown but none shown for the Kiwis in the summer.

We should be thankful for Sky's coverage. If Channel 4 were to show a Test against India it would be the first ever overseas Test shown on free to view. Before Sky, no one showed any interest.
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NZ are in the final as a result of Australia not going to SA.
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Oz vs Saffers tour is off.

Does that mean England just need to win the series to qualify for the final ?
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Old 2nd February 2021, 12:35   #191
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Oz vs Saffers tour is off.

Does that mean England just need to win the series to qualify for the final ?
Yes, the Aussies now cannot qualify and NZ are guaranteed.

But does anyone really care? The Aussies clearly don't.
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Yes, the Aussies now cannot qualify and NZ are guaranteed.

But does anyone really care? The Aussies clearly don't.
Neither do I.
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Old 2nd February 2021, 12:44   #193
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Neither do I.
It would make sense for them to abandon it to be honest. The qualification process was flawed before Covid got involved. I'm not sure any team winning it can really claim much kudos in the current situation. Whilst India's win in Brisbane will live long in the history books of Test Cricket, I'm really not sure a one off at Lord's against NZ will do likewise.
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Yes, the Aussies now cannot qualify and NZ are guaranteed.

But does anyone really care? The Aussies clearly don't.
As bizarre as it sounds, Australia can still qualify depending on the results of the Ind/Eng series (the permutations hurt my brain) and if they did, that would further make a farce of what is already a farcical tournament.
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Old 2nd February 2021, 14:15   #195
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As bizarre as it sounds, Australia can still qualify depending on the results of the Ind/Eng series (the permutations hurt my brain) and if they did, that would further make a farce of what is already a farcical tournament.
Yes, I've just seen the updated tables. It's actually more knocked England out than the Aussies (as bizarre as that seems). England need to win at least 3-1 to go through (not going to happen).

If England were to win 2-0 it would be an Australia v NZ Final. The same if it's a 1-0 win for India!!

This ridiculous competition just got even more farcical.
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I think this clarifies things ...

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The way things are going with Covid, the chances of spectators watching the game at Lords are getting slimmer by the day.
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Oz vs Saffers tour is off.

Does that mean England just need to win the series to qualify for the final ?
Pity as it would have been a good series. Though with both sides better in the bowling than the batting I don't think any of the tests would have lasted 5 days.
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As bizarre as it sounds, Australia can still qualify depending on the results of the Ind/Eng series (the permutations hurt my brain) and if they did, that would further make a farce of what is already a farcical tournament.
Australia would have been ahead of NZ but for some slow over rate at Melbourne! Wonder if they really care, though.
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Australia would have been ahead of NZ but for some slow over rate at Melbourne! Wonder if they really care, though.
They would have to fly to England and presumably quarantine for a few days. Play a Test then fly back to Australia and quarantine again. That's having just played the IPL too. You're right, I doubt they care.

But why slow over rates are impacted here rather than in their pockets seems questionable.
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