The World Test Championship - Page 3

Sir Coolerking · 3rd September 2019, 10:03

If we had any designs on getting to the final then we wouldn't be playing 5 Tests in India.

Having looked at the International Calendar (and general form), I'm sticking to my Aus v India final prediction (and empty stands at Lord's).

1000yardstare · 3rd September 2019, 10:30

3 September 2019

India 120 (2)
New Zealand 60 (2)
Sri Lanka 60 (2)
Australia 32 (3)
England 32 (3)
West Indies 0 (2)

luckyluke · 3rd September 2019, 11:53

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Originally Posted by 1000yardstare

England Tests till the final (if we have enough points)

2019
NZ 2 Tests A
SA 1 Tests A
2020
SA 3 Tests A
SL 2 Tests A
WI 3 Tests H
Pak 3 Tests H
2021
Ind 5 Tests A January
Final June

I’m guessing we’ve already moaned about this, but 3 home series against Pakistan in 5 years? 2 trips to Sri Lanka in what, 18 months?

**Chin Music** · 3rd September 2019, 12:02

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Originally Posted by luckyluke

I’m guessing we’ve already moaned about this, but 3 home series against Pakistan in 5 years? 2 trips to Sri Lanka in what, 18 months?

NZ away as well for 2nd time in less than 2 years and we have now not played Bangladesh at home in nearly 10 years and are not scheduled to do so any time soon.

Sir Coolerking · 3rd September 2019, 12:43

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Originally Posted by Chin Music

NZ away as well for 2nd time in less than 2 years and we have now not played Bangladesh at home in nearly 10 years and are not scheduled to do so any time soon.

Which is crazy as it's an easy 120 points!! Or maybe we take the potential income and interest of a Home Test Series rather more seriously than a concocted, pointless competition.

luckyluke · 3rd September 2019, 13:23

Do I take it from the last few posts that it’s up to the boards who plays who? Surely that renders the final and thus the whole concept of the championship meaningless?

square leg umpire · 3rd September 2019, 23:52

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Originally Posted by 1000yardstare

3 September 2019

India 120 (2)
New Zealand 60 (2)
Sri Lanka 60 (2)
Australia 32 (3)
England 32 (3)
West Indies 0 (2)

The scoring system seems weird. Are they weighted for the quality of the opposition?

Aidan11 · 4th September 2019, 00:13

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Originally Posted by square leg umpire

The scoring system seems weird. Are they weighted for the quality of the opposition?

I think there are 120 points for each series which means you get more points for winning a short series than a longer one. The quality of the teams involved appears to be irrelevant which to me renders the whole thing a complete farce.

sanskritsimon · 4th September 2019, 08:12

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Originally Posted by Aidan11

I think there are 120 points for each series which means you get more points for winning a short series than a longer one ...

More points per game during a shorter series?

Aidan11 · 4th September 2019, 08:33

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Originally Posted by sanskritsimon

More points per game during a shorter series?

Yeah so 60 points per win in a 2 test series and 24 points to win a game in a 5 test series. Doesn't seem fair.

sanskritsimon · 4th September 2019, 08:43

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Originally Posted by Aidan11

Yeah so 60 points per win in a 2 test series and 24 points to win a game in a 5 test series. Doesn't seem fair.

I suppose it counteracts the local economic and political forces to some degree. In every country there will be different factors constraining how long a series should be.

1000yardstare · 9th September 2019, 13:50

9 September 2019

India 120 (2)
New Zealand 60 (2)
Sri Lanka 60 (2)
Australia 56 (4)
England 32 (4)
West Indies 0 (2)

With Root as captain and selector I can't see England playing in the Final.

Pity Afghanistan wasn't included. They would have 60 points, Bangladesh 0.

1000yardstare · 16th September 2019, 00:48

15 September 2019

India 120 (2)
New Zealand 60 (2)
Sri Lanka 60 (2)
Australia 56 (5)
England 56 (5)
West Indies 0 (2)

Sir Coolerking · 16th September 2019, 08:31

You've got to laugh at the scoring system even more now. England and Australia draw a 5 match series 2-2 and get 56 points. NZ and Sri Lanka draw a 2 match series and get 60 points.

At what point will they realise they've got the points wrong for a draw, let alone the amount for different length series?

Ali TT · 16th September 2019, 18:23

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Originally Posted by Sir Coolerking

You've got to laugh at the scoring system even more now. England and Australia draw a 5 match series 2-2 and get 56 points. NZ and Sri Lanka draw a 2 match series and get 60 points.

At what point will they realise they've got the points wrong for a draw, let alone the amount for different length series?

When the next Ashes consists of consecutive two two test match series and a one off test match?

Sir Coolerking · 17th September 2019, 09:07

It's foolish for India to invite us to a 5 match series. You're right, a 2 and a 3 makes far more sense (apparently they have to be minimum of 2).

1000yardstare · 6th October 2019, 12:31

At 6 October 2019

India 160 (3)
NZ 60 (2)
SL 60 (2)
Aus 56 (5)
Eng 56 (5)
WI 0 (2)
SA 0 (1)

@cricvizanalyst
India have been unstoppable at home in the last seven years. In their last 30 home Tests, they've won 24 of them (80%), drawn five and lost just the one test. Of all teams at home since 2013, they by a long way have the best win percentage. #INDvAUS

India 80%
Aus 69.6%
SA 67.5%
Eng 60.4%
NZ 58.6%
SL 50%
Pak 47.8%
WI 41.3%
Ban 34.7
Ziim 18.1%

AJ101 · 6th October 2019, 22:45

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Originally Posted by Sir Coolerking

It's foolish for India to invite us to a 5 match series. You're right, a 2 and a 3 makes far more sense (apparently they have to be minimum of 2).

Can't they just say it's two separate series?

1000yardstare · 13th October 2019, 11:50

13 October 2019

India 200 (4)
NZ 60 (2)
SL 60 (2)
Aus 56 (5)
ENG 56 (5)
SA 0 (2)
WI 0 (2)

Sir Coolerking · 14th October 2019, 08:59

Have India qualified for the Final yet?

3rd September 2019, 13:23	#46
luckyluke Established International Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,106	Do I take it from the last few posts that it’s up to the boards who plays who? Surely that renders the final and thus the whole concept of the championship meaningless? __________________ Most heartless decision: In a women's league match in Denmark, a heavily pregnant woman arrived at the crease, and asked for a runner. Her request was denied, on the grounds that her incapacity had not occured during the course of the match.

6th October 2019, 12:31	#57
1000yardstare Posting Goddess JA 901 Cummins 301 SCurran 58 Jhye 39 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London Posts: 22,889	At 6 October 2019 India 160 (3) NZ 60 (2) SL 60 (2) Aus 56 (5) Eng 56 (5) WI 0 (2) SA 0 (1) @cricvizanalyst India have been unstoppable at home in the last seven years. In their last 30 home Tests, they've won 24 of them (80%), drawn five and lost just the one test. Of all teams at home since 2013, they by a long way have the best win percentage. #INDvAUS India 80% Aus 69.6% SA 67.5% Eng 60.4% NZ 58.6% SL 50% Pak 47.8% WI 41.3% Ban 34.7 Ziim 18.1% Last edited by 1000yardstare : 6th October 2019 at 12:43.

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3rd September 2019, 10:03	#41
Sir Coolerking World Class Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Berks Team(s): England, Sussex, Portsmouth Posts: 6,024	If we had any designs on getting to the final then we wouldn't be playing 5 Tests in India. Having looked at the International Calendar (and general form), I'm sticking to my Aus v India final prediction (and empty stands at Lord's).

3rd September 2019, 10:30	#42
1000yardstare Posting Goddess JA 901 Cummins 301 SCurran 58 Jhye 39 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London Posts: 22,889	3 September 2019 India 120 (2) New Zealand 60 (2) Sri Lanka 60 (2) Australia 32 (3) England 32 (3) West Indies 0 (2)

9th September 2019, 13:50	#52
1000yardstare Posting Goddess JA 901 Cummins 301 SCurran 58 Jhye 39 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London Posts: 22,889	9 September 2019 India 120 (2) New Zealand 60 (2) Sri Lanka 60 (2) Australia 56 (4) England 32 (4) West Indies 0 (2) With Root as captain and selector I can't see England playing in the Final. Pity Afghanistan wasn't included. They would have 60 points, Bangladesh 0.

16th September 2019, 00:48	#53
1000yardstare Posting Goddess JA 901 Cummins 301 SCurran 58 Jhye 39 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London Posts: 22,889	15 September 2019 India 120 (2) New Zealand 60 (2) Sri Lanka 60 (2) Australia 56 (5) England 56 (5) West Indies 0 (2)

16th September 2019, 08:31	#54
Sir Coolerking World Class Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Berks Team(s): England, Sussex, Portsmouth Posts: 6,024	You've got to laugh at the scoring system even more now. England and Australia draw a 5 match series 2-2 and get 56 points. NZ and Sri Lanka draw a 2 match series and get 60 points. At what point will they realise they've got the points wrong for a draw, let alone the amount for different length series?

17th September 2019, 09:07	#56
Sir Coolerking World Class Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Berks Team(s): England, Sussex, Portsmouth Posts: 6,024	It's foolish for India to invite us to a 5 match series. You're right, a 2 and a 3 makes far more sense (apparently they have to be minimum of 2).

13th October 2019, 11:50	#59
1000yardstare Posting Goddess JA 901 Cummins 301 SCurran 58 Jhye 39 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London Posts: 22,889	13 October 2019 India 200 (4) NZ 60 (2) SL 60 (2) Aus 56 (5) ENG 56 (5) SA 0 (2) WI 0 (2)

14th October 2019, 08:59	#60
Sir Coolerking World Class Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Berks Team(s): England, Sussex, Portsmouth Posts: 6,024	Have India qualified for the Final yet?