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Old 5th February 2021, 07:01   #61
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Dan Lawrence's test career surely can't just much longer.
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Old 5th February 2021, 07:03   #62
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Jesus he's not out in two different ways, just get on with it.
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Bumrah's first match in India? Surprised by that.
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Old 5th February 2021, 07:06   #64
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Dan Lawrence's test career surely can't just much longer.
I would have thought he deserves more than 5 innings, especially considering one was a half century and one was a composed not out to guide England to victory.
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Bumrah's first match in India? Surprised by that.
India hasn't played too many tests at home in the last couple of years.

It looked completely England's session, but Burns did even things out.
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Old 5th February 2021, 07:07   #66
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Jesus he's not out in two different ways, just get on with it.
Ridiculous wasn’t it!? He was practically past the return crease.
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I would have thought he deserves more than 5 innings, especially considering one was a half century and one was a composed not out to guide England to victory.
Plus, what are the alternatives?
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Lucky we replaced Crawley like for like and didn’t weaken the batting with an all rounder.

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Old 5th February 2021, 07:19   #69
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From Andy z - hardly like for like. Oh well. Maybe the England side don’t like bigger picture thinking (hopefully this can be shoved down my throat with secon innings ton)

Dan Lawrence had not batted in the top 3 in first-class cricket since September 2017. Since 2015, he'd made 44 runs in 6 innings when batted in top 3. Tough to do an unfamiliar job in a Test. Especially when one of the world's top bowlers then bowls you the perfect inswinger.
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Plus, what are the alternatives?
Root could have moved up or Moeen could have batted there but Lawrence at 3 was probably the least bad solution. I expect Bairstow will be back there by the third test.
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Lucky we replaced Crawley like for like and didn’t weaken the batting with an all rounder.
Getting out within an over after coming in at a tricky moment is hardly conclusive evidence that the wrong call was made. Crawley would obviously have played if fit so I'd rather replace him with a proper top order batsman. None of the alternatives has a convincing case to bat higher than 7 in Tests. Last time we were in India we packed the middle order with bowlers who could bat, including a top four county batsman (Ansari) at 10 and got hammered. Lawrence played in the last two Tests and made some runs. Frankly it makes no sense if you're not going to show faith in him in these circumstances.
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Lawrence missed a straight one early on. Excusable. All top 3 batsmen have done that early on .At least he didn't review. Could give that out from square leg. Burns though? Gah!! As for the "run out"chance. my scream of "NO" may have upset a few neighbours.
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Root could have moved up or Moeen could have batted there but Lawrence at 3 was probably the least bad solution. I expect Bairstow will be back there by the third test.
Root doesn't like 3, does he? As for Moeen, I think he could be a good selection since we rate him so poorly and would tend to get out to him trying to impose ourselves on him.
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If we don't get Root in the next couple of overs, I don't think we're going to get him out today. Early and quick wickets is the only way to go. Otherwise, batsmen can get in and cash in (unless you are Rory Burns).
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Getting out within an over after coming in at a tricky moment is hardly conclusive evidence that the wrong call was made. Crawley would obviously have played if fit so I'd rather replace him with a proper top order batsman. None of the alternatives has a convincing case to bat higher than 7 in Tests. Last time we were in India we packed the middle order with bowlers who could bat, including a top four county batsman (Ansari) at 10 and got hammered. Lawrence played in the last two Tests and made some runs. Frankly it makes no sense if you're not going to show faith in him in these circumstances.
My question was about the balance of likelihood. Woakes has a first class (excluding tests) average not too dissimilar to Lawrence. Moeen has not been scoring runs of late but he averages over 40 in India. Both moeen and woakes can bowl and they can allow archer and stokes to bowl fewer overs. For me it was all about the best team to win.

It is a bit like when spurs visited Brighton and they tried to just swap Kane for bale and Jose said bale had to do Harry’s job. How about a player is unavailable so you think about the best way to win with what you have? Change the plan if that is the best thing to do. I assume they did but decided Lawrence’s extra runs are more likely to contribute than the runs and overs/wickets of others.
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Root could have moved up or Moeen could have batted there but Lawrence at 3 was probably the least bad solution. I expect Bairstow will be back there by the third test.

For me it was a choice between Pope and Lawrence at 6. Would think that Mo has batted 3 most often. Haven't looked up the stats.
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If we don't get Root in the next couple of overs, I don't think we're going to get him out today. Early and quick wickets is the only way to go. Otherwise, batsmen can get in and cash in (unless you are Rory Burns).

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I could watch Root v Ashwin all day long. It's what test cricket is all about. Ash is all about flight and guile. JR probably the best player of spin around.
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I know it is something of a cliche, but add 2 wickets to this and things could get really grim.Sibley might have a ‘Dentury’ but it will be little use if he doesn’t score significant runs.
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India have been absolutely superb since lunch from both ends. Nice to see the ball reversing.
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