ICC Awards - Page 8

Lizzy · 19th August 2010, 15:28

A genuine oversight according to TMS from a statement made by Clive Lloyd

**geoff_boycotts_grandmother** · 19th August 2010, 21:32

So were the Ashes included in last year's awards?

**Rey** · 19th August 2010, 21:45

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Originally Posted by geoff_boycotts_grandmother

So were the Ashes included in last year's awards?

The part that was after 24 August, yes.

greyblazer · 27th August 2010, 08:49

Can anyone explain me how did Punter get nominated for cricketer of the year? Leaving that double century at Hobart when he was dropped early in his innings I can't recall him doing anything in the last one year.

Maybe the panel of judges were inspired by his captaincy of introducing North at Lord's lol.

Lizzy · 3rd September 2010, 18:53

Amir has been cut from the awards.

Minor Maggie · 3rd September 2010, 21:12

Right decision IMHO under the circumstances.

1000yardstare · 3rd September 2010, 23:49

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Originally Posted by Minor Maggie

Right decision IMHO under the circumstances.

I don't think so. He hasn't been proved guilty yet.

slop · 4th September 2010, 00:01

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Originally Posted by 1000yardstare

I don't think so. He hasn't been proved guilty yet.

That's a fair point, in that if not found guilty, will they retrospectively reconsider him for the award? Of course, that could also be said for any games they miss if they are suspended.

1000yardstare · 4th September 2010, 00:43

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Originally Posted by slop

That's a fair point, in that if not found guilty, will they retrospectively reconsider him for the award? Of course, that could also be said for any games they miss if they are suspended.

The awards are from 24 Aug 2009 to 10 Aug 2010. The 4th Test was started on 26th August. Even if he was found guilty now, the awards are for past performances. Should he also hand back his MOM and MOS awards over the past year? Will Flower have to pick a new Man of the Series? Will his name come be taken off the Honours Board at Lords. It really is quite complicated.

slop · 4th September 2010, 00:56

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Originally Posted by 1000yardstare

The awards are from 24 Aug 2009 to 10 Aug 2010. The 4th Test was started on 26th August. Even if he was found guilty now, the awards are for past performances. Should he also hand back his MOM and MOS awards over the past year? Will Flower have to pick a new Man of the Series? Will his name come be taken off the Honours Board at Lords. It really is quite complicated.

Exactly. It's a fairly grey area. How can they be involved in the game at any level with these allegations hanging over their heads? But then, how would they be compensated if they indeed turn out to be innocent?

1000yardstare · 6th October 2010, 15:33

http://www.cricinfo.com/ci-icc/conte...ry/480072.html

We got two in the Test Team of the Year

Virenda Sehwag
Simon Katich
Hashim Amla
Sachin Tendulkar
Jacques Kallis
Kumar Sangakkara
MS Dhoni
Graeme Swann
Dale Steyn
Doug Bollinger
James Anderson

Aidan11 · 6th October 2010, 15:38

I've looked at that list several times and I just can't seem to find Kamran Akmal in there.

**Chin Music** · 6th October 2010, 15:40

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Originally Posted by 1000yardstare

http://www.cricinfo.com/ci-icc/conte...ry/480072.html

We got two in the Test Team of the Year

Virenda Sehwag
Simon Katich
Hashim Amla
Sachin Tendulkar
Jacques Kallis
Kumar Sangakkara
MS Dhoni
Graeme Swann
Dale Steyn
Doug Bollinger
James Anderson

I didn't think his fielding was quite as good this year.

ChivaIsDead · 6th October 2010, 15:50

Surprise, surprise, batsmen win all the awards. I honestly felt that Swann, for a mixture of character, charisma, quality and guile, was the cricketer of the year. I think it should be about more than just churning out figures - it's about being somebody who made a great contribution to cricket in all areas. Swann did more for off-spin and bowling in general in the year than others did for their respective art forms - in my admittedly very humble opinion. However, his original non-inclusion told everyone straight away that he had no chance. He probably wasn't Indian enough.

ddb · 6th October 2010, 16:05

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Originally Posted by Chiva

Surprise, surprise, batsmen win all the awards. I honestly felt that Swann, for a mixture of character, charisma, quality and guile, was the cricketer of the year. I think it should be about more than just churning out figures - it's about being somebody who made a great contribution to cricket in all areas. Swann did more for off-spin and bowling in general in the year than others did for their respective art forms - in my admittedly very humble opinion. However, his original non-inclusion told everyone straight away that he had no chance. He probably wasn't Indian enough.

That's not one eyed at all I agree.

greyblazer · 6th October 2010, 16:06

Over 1000 runs and 200 in oneday cricket? doesn't look bad I think.

greyblazer · 6th October 2010, 16:08

Finally Anderson gets a bit of recognition. He atleast got 18 wickets against SA unlike say Bollinger who got all his wickets against weak teams during the voting period.

ChivaIsDead · 6th October 2010, 16:12

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Originally Posted by ddb

That's not one eyed at all I agree.

Thanks, it's nice that an Indian can acknowledge the greatness of an Englishman.

ddb · 6th October 2010, 16:15

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Originally Posted by Chiva

Thanks, it's nice that an Indian can acknowledge the greatness of an Englishman.

You dont have many of them in your team so its not too hard you know.

ChivaIsDead · 6th October 2010, 16:27

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Originally Posted by ddb

You dont have many of them in your team so its not too hard you know.

That might almost have been witty had every member on this forum not spent half their life slagging off every English player.

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ChivaIsDead International Cricketer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,929	Surprise, surprise, batsmen win all the awards. I honestly felt that Swann, for a mixture of character, charisma, quality and guile, was the cricketer of the year. I think it should be about more than just churning out figures - it's about being somebody who made a great contribution to cricket in all areas. Swann did more for off-spin and bowling in general in the year than others did for their respective art forms - in my admittedly very humble opinion. However, his original non-inclusion told everyone straight away that he had no chance. He probably wasn't Indian enough. __________________

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19th August 2010, 15:28	#141
Lizzy World Class Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 6,354	A genuine oversight according to TMS from a statement made by Clive Lloyd

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geoff_boycotts_grandmother Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 30,010	So were the Ashes included in last year's awards?

27th August 2010, 08:49	#144
greyblazer County Pro Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 993	Can anyone explain me how did Punter get nominated for cricketer of the year? Leaving that double century at Hobart when he was dropped early in his innings I can't recall him doing anything in the last one year. Maybe the panel of judges were inspired by his captaincy of introducing North at Lord's lol.

3rd September 2010, 18:53	#145
Lizzy World Class Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 6,354	Amir has been cut from the awards.

3rd September 2010, 21:12	#146
Minor Maggie Buttleresque Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: West Yorkshire Team(s): Lancashire, England Posts: 27,072	Right decision IMHO under the circumstances.

6th October 2010, 15:33	#151
1000yardstare Posting Goddess JA 901 Cummins 301 SCurran 58 Jhye 39 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London Posts: 22,889	http://www.cricinfo.com/ci-icc/conte...ry/480072.html We got two in the Test Team of the Year Virenda Sehwag Simon Katich Hashim Amla Sachin Tendulkar Jacques Kallis Kumar Sangakkara MS Dhoni Graeme Swann Dale Steyn Doug Bollinger James Anderson

6th October 2010, 15:38	#152
Aidan11 Harmisonesque Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Somewhere cold and wet Posts: 43,423	I've looked at that list several times and I just can't seem to find Kamran Akmal in there.

6th October 2010, 16:06	#156
greyblazer County Pro Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 993	Over 1000 runs and 200 in oneday cricket? doesn't look bad I think.

6th October 2010, 16:08	#157
greyblazer County Pro Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 993	Finally Anderson gets a bit of recognition. He atleast got 18 wickets against SA unlike say Bollinger who got all his wickets against weak teams during the voting period.