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View Poll Results: What will be the outcome of the 2015 Ashes?
Australia 17 73.91%
England 5 21.74%
Tie 1 4.35%
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Old 6th April 2015, 17:34   #41
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Johnson didn't play in 2013 and England couldn't play him in 2013/14 when he was their leading wicket-taker
That was on bouncy fast pitches. He will have a much lesser impact in England. He's never performed in England and I think he will continue to struggle this summer.
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Old 6th April 2015, 17:39   #42
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Well let's hope so.

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Old 6th April 2015, 18:58   #43
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That was on bouncy fast pitches. He will have a much lesser impact in England. He's never performed in England and I think he will continue to struggle this summer.
I wouldnt consider 20 wickets at 32.55 in 2009 as having never performed.
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Old 7th April 2015, 09:26   #44
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That's true but two years ago the same Australian team failed to win a match. Now people seem to think they could win 4-1. Leicestershire haven't won a County match in two years, I doubt they'll be promotion candidates this year. It is about the here and now but recent history is relevant.
Are you comparing Australia to Leicestershire?
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Old 7th April 2015, 13:24   #45
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I wouldnt consider 20 wickets at 32.55 in 2009 as having never performed.
In a losing cause.
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In a losing cause.
The relevance of which is what to the point that Johnson hasnt performed in England?
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Old 7th April 2015, 18:33   #47
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Are you comparing Australia to Leicestershire?
No, I was stating how past form can be used to predict future results.

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The relevance of which is what to the point that Johnson hasnt performed in England?
He's never made a series winning contribution in England in the same way he did in the 2013/14 series in Australia.
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Old 7th April 2015, 19:37   #48
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No, I was stating how past form can be used to predict future results.



He's never made a series winning contribution in England in the same way he did in the 2013/14 series in Australia.
Here's one for you.

In 2010/11 Mitch took 15 wickets at 37 with an e/r of 4.05.
In 2013/14 Mitch took 37 wickets at 14 with an er of 2.74.

Presumably this means he'll take 43 wickets this summer at an average of 9?
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Old 7th April 2015, 20:32   #49
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Here's one for you.

In 2010/11 Mitch took 15 wickets at 37 with an e/r of 4.05.
In 2013/14 Mitch took 37 wickets at 14 with an er of 2.74.

Presumably this means he'll take 43 wickets this summer at an average of 9?
I was talking about his record in England so the figures for 2103/14 have no relevance as the series was in Australia.
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Old 7th April 2015, 20:54   #50
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Old 7th April 2015, 21:11   #51
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I have to say i'm on the fence about Johnson this summer. He's been good but not great in the past six months, a step down from the previous winter and maybe a little down on pace. Perhaps, though, he just suffers in comparison to Starc.
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Old 30th July 2015, 17:12   #52
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Anyone changing their minds?
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Old 30th July 2015, 17:26   #53
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Anyone changing their minds?
The betting exchanges certainly are but we're very nearly 3 tests through the series now. I think people are entitled to account for that.
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Old 11th August 2015, 16:28   #54
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3-1 Australia.

Mitchell Johnson may not be in the form he was 18 months ago but i dont think he'll have to be. Like Warne, i think he now will have the mental edge on those England batsmen who played in 2013/14. Ryan Harris is getting on but he is still better than any of the England bowlers. And the Aussies have Steve Smith who is arguably the best batsman on the planet at the moment.

That's before we start on England's frailties.
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8/13 isn't massively short. Looking at the odds for the series score, I'm tempted to have a flutter after seeing England to win 2-1 or 3-1 is 12/1. I think these odds will change once other bookmakers start setting prices.
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I think the Aussies will win 3-1 or possibly 4-1.
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Don't forget Australia have won 2 of their last 15 Tests in England. Now your predicting they will win 4 from their next 5.
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Is it the same Australian team?

Australia seem stronger to me and England are weaker.
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Johnson didn't play in 2013 and England couldn't play him in 2013/14 when he was their leading wicket-taker.

Warner didn't play the full series in 2013 and he was Australia's leading run-scorer in 2013/14 series.

England are without their leading wicket-taker from 2013 and the self-inflicted wound of their second top run-scorer from 2013 (and top-scorer in 2013/14).

So some fairly significant differences.

And that's without even recognising that Smith has matured more than Root.
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Old 11th August 2015, 20:52   #56
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You can say that again!
TBF I never said that in this thread.
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TBF I never said that in this thread.
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