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Old 21st March 2014, 16:37   #61
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Was Strauss also the brains behind England's T20 success, despite not being involved?
No, we can't credit Strauss with that one.
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Old 21st March 2014, 16:37   #62
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I think Strauss was the brains behind England's planning. Without him Flower had no help from Cook. I got the impression the Flower had to captain from the sidelines with KP wanting to have a big say when he saw Cook's weaknesses. Cook getting advice from Flower, Pietersen and the bowlers wasn't going to work as none of them agreed about anything. Whitaker in charge of the selections wasn't a good idea, especially when Strauss went and Flower probably taking a vote from the backroom staff on who he should select rather than Strauss knowing who he wanted.

All guesswork by the way.
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Old 21st March 2014, 16:46   #63
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Flower/Collingwood worked well together as well. Collingwood the brains. I don't think Giles/Broad will be anything like that.
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Old 21st March 2014, 19:21   #64
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You always tell me off for speculation...

Loss of Strauss and Collingwood probably have left big holes that can't be filled. Strauss a relatively cool head, Collingwood someone to aspire too in terms of commitment and performance (especially for the "team" players who are less talented but need to do well if the side is to succeed).

English cricket needs new direction at many levels. Even in his off-field activities (messing around with domestic cricket, cosying up to any old billionaire), Clarke hardly covers himself in glory. I worry that Flower is in this poorly defined director position as, Fergie-like, his shadow may be hard for the new coach to escape from under.
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Old 22nd March 2014, 00:39   #65
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You always tell me off for speculation...

Loss of Strauss and Collingwood probably have left big holes that can't be filled. Strauss a relatively cool head, Collingwood someone to aspire too in terms of commitment and performance (especially for the "team" players who are less talented but need to do well if the side is to succeed).

English cricket needs new direction at many levels. Even in his off-field activities (messing around with domestic cricket, cosying up to any old billionaire), Clarke hardly covers himself in glory. I worry that Flower is in this poorly defined director position as, Fergie-like, his shadow may be hard for the new coach to escape from under.
I don't like Clarke any more than you do.

And I agree with the rest of your post.

While England is rapidly disappearing down a sinkhole of its own making, the members of Cricket 24/7 may actually be starting to agree with each other. .... On some issues...
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Old 22nd March 2014, 00:45   #66
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Funny thing is Warne was only saying what a lot of English commentators were saying.
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Old 22nd March 2014, 01:06   #67
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Funny thing is Warne was only saying what a lot of English commentators were saying.
"Zeir names are also on ze list!"

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N Srinivisan is asked to step down as chief of the BCCI by the Supreme Court of Justice in India. So that's another BFF of Giles Clarke that's in serious judicial hot water. How does he pick 'em?

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Old 25th March 2014, 11:43   #69
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N Srinivisan is asked to step down as chief of the BCCI by the Supreme Court of Justice in India. So that's another BFF of Giles Clarke that's in serious judicial hot water. How does he pick 'em?

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Coz he's a greedy, self-interested **** and birds of a feather flock together. Just a shame that Clarke hasn't been forced to stand down yet.
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N Srinivisan is asked to step down as chief of the BCCI by the Supreme Court of Justice in India. So that's another BFF of Giles Clarke that's in serious judicial hot water. How does he pick 'em?

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Despite that, I'm sure Srinivasan will have enough of his cronies running the game that there won't be any change or improvement in the way BCCI is run.
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Old 25th March 2014, 16:24   #71
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Despite that, I'm sure Srinivasan will have enough of his cronies running the game that there won't be any change or improvement in the way BCCI is run.
There are three groups trying to run the show.

Pawar Group
N Srinivasan Group
Now new entry Lalit Modi Group after Vasundhara Raje has become the chief Minister of Rajasthan.
Dalmiya Group

I guess it would be some clown running the show with Srinivasan being the king maker.
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Old 31st March 2014, 12:52   #72
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There are three groups trying to run the show.

Pawar Group
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Now new entry Lalit Modi Group after Vasundhara Raje has become the chief Minister of Rajasthan.
Dalmiya Group

I guess it would be some clown running the show with Srinivasan being the king maker.
Shivlal Yadav, and he fits the clown description. Never liked him as a bowler and he isn't any different as an administrator.
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Shivlal Yadav, and he fits the clown description. Never liked him as a bowler and he isn't any different as an administrator.
Someone like Kumble, Gavaskar or Ganguly is needed for a whole reform.
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Someone like Kumble, Gavaskar or Ganguly is needed for a whole reform.
At least they'll be off commentary then. Can I suggest Ravi Shastri too?
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Excuse me, but the this is the ECB Clowns thread...
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At least they'll be off commentary then. Can I suggest Ravi Shastri too?
Well he is a more of like these clowns.

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Excuse me, but the this is the ECB Clowns thread...
They are the head of clowns, we are the lesser ones.
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Old 31st March 2014, 13:50   #77
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Well he is a more of like these clowns.



They are the head of clowns, we are the lesser ones.
The BCCI chiefs may actually be the better clown- they have that hint of the sinister that all good clowns need to pull off. The ECB are just the straight-man who always gets the pie in his face.
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The BCCI chiefs may actually be the better clown- they have that hint of the sinister that all good clowns need to pull off. The ECB are just the straight-man who always gets the pie in his face.
The pies don't always go in the face, they often go down leg-side or over the head.
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The pies don't always go in the face, they often go down leg-side or over the head.
That made me laugh. Some slip through Buttler's gloves as well.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/26850560

Hants chairman Rod Bransgrove reckons Carbs might have scuppered his chances of future England call-ups and gives some astute remarks today.

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"We don't have an administration that really welcomes appraisal or criticism," he told BBC Radio Solent. "I don't suppose those comments will be particularly well received."
Presumably he may have scuppered the future of the Ageas Bowl hosting internationals
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