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Old 8th March 2018, 13:00   #1
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County Cricket 2018 - General

Overseas Players

Derbys - Olivier SA
Durham - Markham SA/Latham NZ/A Patel Ind
Essex - Siddle Aus/Wagner NZ
Glam - SMarsh Aus
Gloucs - Worrall Aus
Hants - Amla SA/Steyn SA
Kent - Henry NZ/Milne NZ
Lancs - Mennie Aus
Leics - Abbas Pak/Aaron Ind
Middx - Hylton Cartwright SA
N'hants - Bracewell NZ/Kleinveldt SA
Notts - Taylor NZ
Som -
Surrey - MMarsh Aus/Elgar SA
Sussex - Sharma Ind
Warks - Patel NZ
Worcs - Head Aus
Yorks - Pujara Ind/Williamson NZ

NZ - 8
SA - 7
Aus - 6
Ind - 4
Pak - 2

Can someone do the Kolpaks at each county?

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Old 8th March 2018, 13:45   #2
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(T20 only) Overseas Players

Derbys
Durham -
Essex - Zampa Aus
Glam
Gloucs - Tye Aus
Hants -
Kent -
Lancs - Faulkner Aus
Leics - Mohammad Nabi -Afg
Middx -
N'hants - Prasanna -SL
Notts - Sodhi NZ & Christian - Aus
Som - Anderson - NZ
Surrey - Finch Aus
Sussex - Rashid Khan - Afg
Warks - de Grandhomme NZ
Worcs -
Yorks - Stanlake - Aus

Aus - 5
NZ - 3
Afg - 2
SL - 1
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Old 8th March 2018, 13:52   #3
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Can someone do the Kolpaks at each county?
Derby - Rampaul WI & Viljoen SA
Durham
Essex - Harmer SA
Glamorgan - Ingram SA
Gloustershire
Hampshire - Abbott, Rossouw SA Edwards WI
Kent - Kuhn SA
Lancs - Chanderpaul WI & Vilas SA
Leicestershire
Middlesex
Northants - Levi SA
Nottinghamshire
Somerset
Surrey
Sussex - Van Zyl & Weise SA
Warwicks - Elliot NZ
Worcestershire
Yorkshire

Levi may be qualified by now. Think everyone else is qualified somehow through the EU, dual national, parentage or residency. Not sure about Ingram at Glamorgan (think he has resigned for two more years but not for championship cricket). Think Ervine was originally a kolpak probably qualified by now.

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Old 21st March 2018, 12:22   #4
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One other change which has been brought to the attention of players before the season concerns “mock fielding” – a deliberate attempt by a fielder to deceive the batsman. That is now covered by Law 41, Unfair Play – and will also be punished with a five-run penalty.

I am not keen on this one. If bowlers can attempt to deceive the batsmen why can't fielders.
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Good point, well made. Also, enforcement will require the umpire to guess what a fielder was thinking and will inevitably result in many incorrect decisions.
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Old 22nd March 2018, 18:31   #6
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One other change which has been brought to the attention of players before the season concerns “mock fielding” – a deliberate attempt by a fielder to deceive the batsman. That is now covered by Law 41, Unfair Play – and will also be punished with a five-run penalty.

I am not keen on this one. If bowlers can attempt to deceive the batsmen why can't fielders.
I've never really liked it when they fake dive for the ball to stop the batsman running, I'm glad they are changing the rule. I don't see it as the same as a bowler bowling the ball.
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Old 22nd March 2018, 20:47   #7
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Suspect 'mock fielding' will be very difficult to adjudicate. Just think of the multiple replays TV pundits get for football 'diving' incidents - often without finally reaching a consensus. In most cases County umpires will get a 'one off' opportunity to view such events - tricky, to say the least.
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Old 23rd March 2018, 11:21   #8
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Is this really a serious problem within cricket? Nothing better to do?
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Old 23rd March 2018, 11:57   #9
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Is this really a serious problem within cricket? Nothing better to do?
No. Yes.

Cricket is already riddled with too many laws and regulations. This is just bollox.
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Old 23rd March 2018, 13:23   #10
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Can someone do the Kolpaks at each county?
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Derby - Rampaul WI & Viljoen SA
Durham
Essex - Harmer SA
Glamorgan - Ingram SA
Gloustershire
Hampshire - Abbott, Rossouw SA Edwards WI
Kent - Kuhn SA
Lancs - Chanderpaul WI & Vilas SA
Leicestershire
Middlesex
Northants - Levi SA
Nottinghamshire
Somerset
Surrey
Sussex - Van Zyl & Weise SA
Warwicks - Elliot NZ
Worcestershire
Yorkshire

Levi may be qualified by now. Think everyone else is qualified somehow through the EU, dual national, parentage or residency. Not sure about Ingram at Glamorgan (think he has resigned for two more years but not for championship cricket). Think Ervine was originally a kolpak probably qualified by now.
I get a bit confused with the various designations, but Matt Pillans and Conor McKerr and both two years into a seven year qualifying period at Surrey, so will not be eligible for England for another five years. I think they're probably dual passport holders with a British parent(s).

I was under the impression that Brad Wheal at Hants was in a similar position, but now he's popped up playing for Scotland in their recent World Cup qualifiers.
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Old 23rd March 2018, 19:52   #11
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I get a bit confused with the various designations, but Matt Pillans and Conor McKerr and both two years into a seven year qualifying period at Surrey, so will not be eligible for England for another five years. I think they're probably dual passport holders with a British parent(s).

I was under the impression that Brad Wheal at Hants was in a similar position, but now he's popped up playing for Scotland in their recent World Cup qualifiers.
I have Pillans, McKerr and Wheal down as 'English' qualified which normnally means through ancestry or as a passport holder. Of course, that is in terms of county cricket not international cricket for England where the ECB has tightened the rules.

A quick google search found this on cricinfo:

McKerr has a British passport but the ECB's tightening of qualification rules means that, because he will arrive in the UK after his 18th birthday, he must serve a longer qualification period. However, he will only be 25 by the time he is eligible.

Pillans, who has secured an ancestral visa giving him the right to work in the UK, will be 31 but an an insider told ESPNcricinfo, "Mathew believes he has a better chance of playing for England in seven years' time than he does of playing for South Africa. He is not even in a franchise team here."


Similarly with Brad Wheal from the Daily Echo:

The South African British passport holder intends to qualify for England during the next seven years after being brought over from Durban by Dale Benkenstein, who spotted Wheal playing for Natal Under-19s in December.

I guess Cricket Scotland don't have the same self imposed restrictions as the ECB. He has a Scottish mother.
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Hain makes the 1st century of the season and Bess the second.
138* (276)
101* (102)
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Hain makes the 1st century of the season and Bess the second.
138* (276)
101* (102)
No, they've made two of the final centuries of the overseas season.
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No, they've made two of the final centuries of the overseas season.
Or just in a match played overseas.

And what about Gleeson's hat-trick? Surely he's now seriously in contention for the Test side?
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Derby - Rampaul WI & Viljoen SA
Durham
Essex - Harmer SA
Glamorgan - Ingram SA
Gloustershire
Hampshire - Abbott, Rossouw SA Edwards WI
Kent - Kuhn SA
Lancs - Chanderpaul WI & Vilas SA
Leicestershire
Middlesex
Northants - Levi SA
Nottinghamshire
Somerset
Surrey
Sussex - Van Zyl & Weise SA
Warwicks - Elliot NZ
Worcestershire
Yorkshire

Levi may be qualified by now. Think everyone else is qualified somehow through the EU, dual national, parentage or residency. Not sure about Ingram at Glamorgan (think he has resigned for two more years but not for championship cricket). Think Ervine was originally a kolpak probably qualified by now.
Morkel to Surrey.
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And the first wicket of the season goes to... Joe Leach. Early sighter for Vince.
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And the first wicket of the season goes to... Joe Leach. Early sighter for Vince.
He's making the most of it so far
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He's making the most of it so far
Yep, breezing along at the moment with plenty of delightful cover drives. Tongue taking plenty of flak.

Looking at the videos there are a couple that have gone through slip but played deliberately into the ground with soft hands. Where was that kind of sure-footedness outside off stump over the winter?
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