Cricket 24/7  

Welcome to the Cricket 24/7.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. There are also more forums available to members, such as the Lounge - where members chat about just about anything under the sun except cricket!

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.


Go Back   Cricket 24/7 > Cricket Discussion Forums > The Kim Jones Domestic Cricket Forum
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar Casino Articles Terms of Use Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11th September 2015, 10:15   #281
Zebroston Chase
Not Lara or Chanderpaul but the best you've got
 
Zebroston Chase's Avatar
When Hope is gone, I will appear.
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Glasgow
Team(s): AFC Hornchurch, Essex, England
Age: 34
Posts: 18,509
That is another problem. The CC is played, mostly, either end of the cricket season which unfortunately coincides with the football season.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by High Druid Nathan Barley View Post
I'm fully aware of his thinking, which merely underlines the point that he's an idiot.
Zebroston Chase is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th September 2015, 11:28   #282
paulsre
World Class
 
paulsre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: In a class 101 Met Cam time machine to the past
Team(s): Stockholm Taverners CC, County cricket, MCCU cricket, England, Scarborough CC, Swedish cricket
Posts: 5,837
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Virgs and Zamora View Post
Don't overlook that this was the first home Saturday of the season for Brighton.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deep Fried McZebra View Post
That is another problem. The CC is played, mostly, either end of the cricket season which unfortunately coincides with the football season.
Very good points.

As far as getting Joe Public - I mean your casual cricket fan - to games, the window is pretty narrow - June, July, August - and as pointed out, football now also is a competing attraction in August.

As far as Joe Public is concerned April is not the cricket season. May is sort of okay but again there is still football and evenings can be really cold. By September, just as the season itself drifts away, his thoughts turn to other pursuits and evenings are not suitable.
paulsre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th September 2015, 12:37   #283
geoff_boycotts_grandmother
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 27,542
Quote:
Originally Posted by paulsre View Post
I totally agree with you. I don't see the point of day-night ODIs - surely people who make the effort to get tickets want to see most of the game, which means making a day of it anyway.

It's totally different to a day-night RL 50 Cup match, where a local fan might well pop down just to watch the second innings.
LOL at international cricket being for the fans rather than the TV companies.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michelle Fivefer
It was a poor innings by Bell with the bat.
geoff_boycotts_grandmother is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2015, 19:18   #284
Minor Maggie
Buttleresque
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Leeds
Team(s): Lancashire, England
Posts: 26,711
Lancs are going to let people in to the Surrey game at tea for 5 on all the days with a view to introducing the policy in 2016.
Minor Maggie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2015, 19:54   #285
Aidan11
Harmisonesque
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Somewhere cold and wet
Posts: 39,620
Durham have been doing that for years.
Aidan11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2015, 21:03   #286
Summer of '77
World Class
 
Summer of '77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: London-Essex
Team(s): Kent, Essex, Surrey Stars
Posts: 7,965
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aidan11 View Post
Durham have been doing that for years.
Free entry after tea used to be standard practice at all counties for years. Many's the time I've loitered around outside a ground, waiting for the gatemen to pack up their stuff and depart.
Summer of '77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2015, 21:05   #287
sweatysock
Established International
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Team(s): Sussex & Scotland
Posts: 3,839
its free at Sussex after tea - has been ever since I can remember
sweatysock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2015, 21:35   #288
Aidan11
Harmisonesque
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Somewhere cold and wet
Posts: 39,620
So it should be.

I remember it unfair that I once paid at the gate before 11am (full price of course) only for it to start raining before play began. They didn't get on until the final session so those that came at that point paid a fiver whereas I paid 15 and saw the same amount of cricket.
Aidan11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2015, 21:44   #289
Summer of '77
World Class
 
Summer of '77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: London-Essex
Team(s): Kent, Essex, Surrey Stars
Posts: 7,965
Surrey's final game (home to N'hants) will be free for numerous folks, as members hand out their unused guest vouchers to all and sundry.
Summer of '77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th September 2015, 08:11   #290
Fred
County Pro
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 636
Quote:
Originally Posted by Minor Maggie View Post
Lancs are going to let people in to the Surrey game at tea for 5 on all the days with a view to introducing the policy in 2016.
which shows how little the Lancs marketing set up know about county cricket, if not cricket in general, as others have pointed out. To describe this as a New Admission policy, they must live in a vacuum.
Fred is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th September 2015, 09:20   #291
paulsre
World Class
 
paulsre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: In a class 101 Met Cam time machine to the past
Team(s): Stockholm Taverners CC, County cricket, MCCU cricket, England, Scarborough CC, Swedish cricket
Posts: 5,837
From the Middlesex message board:

"Thank you to all the Middlesex members, Yorkshire supporters and County Championship cricket fans who took the time and trouble to sign the petition at Lord's this week asking (chairman) Ian (Lovett) to oppose any ECB proposals to reduce the County Championship.

"The petition was received by Richard Goatley our Chief Operating Officer at lunchtime on Friday.

"Richard was very welcoming and appreciative. He reported that following the Executive Board meeting on Tuesday, the Middlesex position is 'that we remain firmly opposed to any reduction in the County Championship and this will be reflected in our stance when we meet again with the ECB on this issue later this month'. He thanked everyone who has signed the petition as it will help to strengthen the Middlesex position at the ECB meeting."
paulsre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th September 2015, 17:04   #292
CDogg16
Established International
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 4,000
Quote:
Originally Posted by paulsre View Post
From the Middlesex message board:

"Thank you to all the Middlesex members, Yorkshire supporters and County Championship cricket fans who took the time and trouble to sign the petition at Lord's this week asking (chairman) Ian (Lovett) to oppose any ECB proposals to reduce the County Championship.

"The petition was received by Richard Goatley our Chief Operating Officer at lunchtime on Friday.

"Richard was very welcoming and appreciative. He reported that following the Executive Board meeting on Tuesday, the Middlesex position is 'that we remain firmly opposed to any reduction in the County Championship and this will be reflected in our stance when we meet again with the ECB on this issue later this month'. He thanked everyone who has signed the petition as it will help to strengthen the Middlesex position at the ECB meeting."
How many signed it in the end?
CDogg16 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th September 2015, 17:46   #293
paulsre
World Class
 
paulsre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: In a class 101 Met Cam time machine to the past
Team(s): Stockholm Taverners CC, County cricket, MCCU cricket, England, Scarborough CC, Swedish cricket
Posts: 5,837
Quote:
Originally Posted by CDogg16 View Post
How many signed it in the end?
That refers to a paper petition circulated at the match, so I don't know.

The online one is still running and was up to about 1,300 when I last looked.
paulsre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th September 2015, 16:17   #294
paulsre
World Class
 
paulsre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: In a class 101 Met Cam time machine to the past
Team(s): Stockholm Taverners CC, County cricket, MCCU cricket, England, Scarborough CC, Swedish cricket
Posts: 5,837
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sussex by the sea View Post
Abolish bonus points!
With places at stake in the current matches, it certainly strikes me that some of them are almost worthless:

1 point for getting to 200 runs. This is something that is reached far more often than not. Certainly no achievement.

1 point for getting 3 wickets. This is something that is almost always attained by the bowling side. Instances of sides finishing their first innings/getting to 100 overs with only two wickets down (barring weather-affected situations) must be minimal.
paulsre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th September 2015, 16:36   #295
Summer of '77
World Class
 
Summer of '77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: London-Essex
Team(s): Kent, Essex, Surrey Stars
Posts: 7,965
Quote:
Originally Posted by paulsre View Post
1 point for getting 3 wickets. This is something that is almost always attained by the bowling side. Instances of sides finishing their first innings/getting to 100 overs with only two wickets down (barring weather-affected situations) must be minimal.
Lancashire mustered only one bowling point at Canterbury the other week, and this might yet prove crucial in the race for the Div Two title.

One thing bonus points can do is validate a day's play for the paying spectator. For example, in cases where five of the first six sessions have been rained off and a result looks highly unlikely, the chase for bonus points means there's still some purpose in the cricket.
Summer of '77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th September 2015, 08:49   #296
Summer of '77
World Class
 
Summer of '77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: London-Essex
Team(s): Kent, Essex, Surrey Stars
Posts: 7,965
I attended the Kent Members' Forum yesterday, hosted by the club's Chairman and CEO. They confirmed that the structure the ECB wants agreed (next week I think) will involve two divisions of nine teams next year, with one being promoted from Div 2 and two being relegated from Div 1, to form the eight-team and ten-team divisions from 2017. It is almost certain that only one team will swap divisions annually after this point.

It was confirmed that the counties are united in their opposition to the overall package on the table but for varying reasons. Kent, for example, see the possible ending of regular Friday night T20 cricket as most damaging proposal to their club.

It's quite possible that the proposed reforms could be pushed through without the counties' consent. I think they will. I've been banging on for years about Two Divisions being a vehicle to ultimately produce an elite big city premier league and this latest set of proposals will simply complete the project.
Summer of '77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th September 2015, 10:40   #297
paulsre
World Class
 
paulsre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: In a class 101 Met Cam time machine to the past
Team(s): Stockholm Taverners CC, County cricket, MCCU cricket, England, Scarborough CC, Swedish cricket
Posts: 5,837
Quote:
Originally Posted by Summer of '77 View Post
They confirmed that the structure the ECB wants agreed (next week I think) will involve two divisions of nine teams next year, with one being promoted from Div 2 and two being relegated from Div 1, to form the eight-team and ten-team divisions from 2017. It is almost certain that only one team will swap divisions annually after this point.
Did they explain why the ECB wants to do this?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Summer of '77 View Post
It's quite possible that the proposed reforms could be pushed through without the counties' consent. I think they will.
What's the point of having a domestic programme that the clubs themselves don't want?
paulsre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th September 2015, 11:56   #298
Summer of '77
World Class
 
Summer of '77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: London-Essex
Team(s): Kent, Essex, Surrey Stars
Posts: 7,965
Quote:
Originally Posted by paulsre View Post
Did they explain why the ECB wants to do this?



What's the point of having a domestic programme that the clubs themselves don't want?
There was no specific explanation but I did arrive in the pavilion five minutes late due to smoking commitments.

I don't think anyone bar half a dozen ECB officials actually wants the programme being proposed. Even the PCA, keen on an overall reduction in cricket, has come out against an asymmetrical Championship.
Summer of '77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th September 2015, 15:27   #299
1000yardstare
Posting Goddess
 
1000yardstare's Avatar
JA 815 Cummins 149 Wagner 147 Curran 21
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: London
Posts: 20,599
ECB
"There will be no substantial change [to domestic structure] for 2016 and the ECB Board will not be asked to ratify any changes at the next Board meeting."
1000yardstare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th September 2015, 15:49   #300
paulsre
World Class
 
paulsre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: In a class 101 Met Cam time machine to the past
Team(s): Stockholm Taverners CC, County cricket, MCCU cricket, England, Scarborough CC, Swedish cricket
Posts: 5,837
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1000yardstare View Post
ECB
"There will be no substantial change [to domestic structure] for 2016 and the ECB Board will not be asked to ratify any changes at the next Board meeting."
To be honest this is what I always expected for 2016. There is already too much decided/in place (this year's promotion/relegation, t20 finals day already set for August 20, memberships already sold on the basis of 16 matches and presumably other existing arrangements such as with sponsors) to drive through change for 2016 without causing a lot of upset.

So now I suppose we have to endure another 12 months of rumours and debate about what will happen in 2017...
paulsre is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:21.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Cricket247.org