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Old 7th June 2008, 01:06   #41
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I was thinking the same myself today.

Nothing like a bit of good healthy sibling rivalry.
and Ben doesn't get the new ball. Who will Plunkett and Onions replace when they are fit? Throp is doing very well.
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Old 7th June 2008, 08:22   #42
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and Ben doesn't get the new ball. Who will Plunkett and Onions replace when they are fit? Throp is doing very well.
Davies will be one of them to go. Onions should go straight back in but Plunkett might have to wait for someone to be unfit (unless he gets an England recall )
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Speaking to Geoff Cook today they may released Mark Wood from Durham. He rates him but the kid has had an operation and maybe one too many bowlers on the books type deal.
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Old 7th June 2008, 10:23   #43
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Harmison has competition from his brother Ben. In first class cricket Ben needs less overs to take his wickets. Ben's 4.5 overs to Steve's 7.8.

Steve
f/c 149.2 overs - 19 wickets - 21.47
FPT 73.5 overs - 16 wickets - 20.87

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f/c 41.2 overs - 9 wickets - 17.55
FPT 34.2 overs - 8 wickets - 20.12
Certainly baffles me, Ben has always looked average when I've seen him bowl.
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Old 5th July 2008, 21:23   #44
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I was reading today that Donald has revealed just how terrifed Harmison became of being England's spearhead last summer.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricke...9520-20632558/

I really think this is private information Donald should not be talking about. I can't imagine Harmison would want to have it made public. He knows Harmison is hoping to get back into the England team. Conspiracy theory -maybe Donald thinks that later on in the series England might be bring back Flintoff, Harmison, Jones and Hoggard and wants to make sure he isn't.

I think Harmison's biggest problem is the media and not the opposition batsmen.
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Donald first mentioned this ages ago. In Spin magazine I think. No conspiracy here.
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Donald first mentioned this ages ago. In Spin magazine I think. No conspiracy here.
I don't think it should have been mentioned at all.
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Old 5th July 2008, 22:42   #47
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I don't think it should have been mentioned at all.
Perhaps that's what you get for letting a noted adversary of England into the inner circle for a spell... I would absolutely not trust Donald to understand Harmison.
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Old 6th July 2008, 15:17   #48
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It might spur Harmison on. Come back in the side and rip the SA batsmen apart.
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From The Mail

England may just have unearthed a natural-born leader in our new skipper Kevin Pietersen. When the news first reached me that Michael Vaughan was to step down as England captain, I couldn't believe my ears.

Watching Michael on TV last Sunday announcing his resignation was tough. As someone who has shared such success with him up to and including our Ashes victory in 2005, I wasn't looking at an England captain but a good friend going through the mill.

Michael always cared deeply about being England captain and he would have been devastated to give it up. But I'd put money on him coming back as a batsman in next summer's Ashes. He is too good a player not to return if he wants to - and I know he wants to.

But while the news was a shock, the excitement of the new man soon took over and, during a team talk at The Oval on Monday, it became obvious that Kevin was determined to make his mark. He spoke about the pride and the passion he wanted from us and what it meant to play for England, about being honest with ourselves, taking individual responsibility and sticking together.

No one was going to be left to fend for himself. He also told us quite openly that because he had such limited experience, he was going to be relying on us for our help. It was impressive stuff, even to those of us who have been around the block. When he invited everyone there to have their say as well, it was clear he is going to be a captain who listens as well as he talks.

Then, on the day before the match, Kevin walked over to me and said simply: 'I want you in my team. You'll be taking the new ball,' and it felt like he had injected me with a syringe full of confidence.
By the time he sent text messages to all of us that night to wish us luck and remind all of us to enjoy it, I was so pumped up I texted back that I felt like a kid on Christmas Eve.

People have suggested that Kevin's batting may suffer from the burden of captaincy. Some have even said he is too selfish a player for the needs of the side. Anyone who really knows Kevin knows that he is so mentally strong that, when he goes out to bat, nothing is allowed to interfere with his focus - and that includes the captaincy. If his first-innings ton was borne of selfishness, we'll take it every time.

When Kevin bats like he can, not only does he play a different game, he also seems to play on a different pitch from everyone else. He not only empties bars but dressing rooms as well.

Those who criticise him for his unorthodox strokeplay need to know that, for a right-hander to be able to play left-handed shots like he occasionally does with his switch-hits, takes hours of practice. I've rarely seen anyone who trains so much and with such intensity and purpose.

His example clearly rubbed off on me, because most observers considered there were no words to describe some of the shots in my 49, which was my best Test score.

Not wishing to be too harsh on Monty's running between wickets, but Fred and I drove behind him to the ground yesterday morning and when he decided to stop at a green light, I was suddenly overwhelmed by a sense of deja vu. Suffice to say that if I ever get close to a maiden Test 50 again and Monty is batting at the other end, I'll try and reach it with a boundary.

Finally, a little secret about the ball I bowled to dismiss Hashim Amla on the first day. While I was busy watching Jimmy Anderson catch Graeme Smith off the previous delivery, I hadn't noticed the batsmen crossing, so I was preparing to face the new batsman Jacques Kallis.

Jacques seems to be having trouble picking up full-length deliveries at the moment, so I decided to test him with a yorker but, when I looked up, it was Amla. I was pumped up and, with the crowd roaring me on, I decided to try it anyway and let go a 93mph beauty that took out his middle stump. It was a sublime moment and reminded me just how much I love playing Test cricket and how I am not going to waste this second chance.
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I do find Harmison's honesty attractive at times. That's a good read.
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That's a very good read.
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I do find Harmison's honesty attractive at times. That's a good read.
He must have done a lot of thinking during the 8 Test matches he missed and with a new captain he can make a fresh start. We don't have anyone in county cricket that is as threatening a bowler so someone needs to find a way to get the best out of him and I think that could be Pietersen. It was a good idea to get him to open the bowling.

Opening bowlers - Harmison, Hoggard, Sidebottom, Anderson (I can only see two of these bowlers playing in the side at the same time).

First change bowlers - Flintoff, Broad, Tremlett (Tremlett doesn't always open for his county and Broad and Flintoff don't)

Simon Jones usually doesn't open and one of the reasons he wanted to go to Worcs was that he could open but I notice there he sometimes doesn't. He felt he wasn't the complete bowler unless he had experience opening but he would be effective as a first change whereas Hoggard, Sidebottom and Anderson wouldn't be.
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I think Broad could progress to open the bowling, and I think Harmy could as easily be first change as opening.
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I think Broad could progress to open the bowling, and I think Harmy could as easily be first change as opening.
what, instead of Harmison? You want your main strike bowler to open surely.
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what, instead of Harmison? You want your main strike bowler to open surely.
If say Hoggard was recalled, I'd be happy to see Harmison at first change.

Anderson, Hoggy and Sideshow could only open the bowling though.
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If say Hoggard was recalled, I'd be happy to see Harmison at first change.

Anderson, Hoggy and Sideshow could only open the bowling though.
Harmison's average as

1st bowler - 33.46
2nd bowler - 27.29
3rd bowler - 36.52
4th bowler - 64.80
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On Gough's show this evening he said Harmison laid down some conditions about coming back into the one day side and he wasn't going to talk about them.

I wonder what they were.

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From reading various articles I think one of them is that if Sidebottom is fit he should be first choice in the Stanford game. He said he wouldn't feel right playing ahead of Sidebottom but if he is picked he says he can't do much about it.

'A sensitive man, Harmison is well aware of how it might look should he gatecrash his way into the side for Antigua. For that reason, he has placed conditions on his return, though he is not keen to make them public'.

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I imagine getting paid more and being guaranteed selection migh be 2 of them!
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I said all along it was the Stanford money.
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I imagine getting paid more and being guaranteed selection migh be 2 of them!
I don't think Harmison is worried about money otherwise he wouldn't have retired from ODIs as he must have taken a pay cut. He probably thought if he has to go away to South Africa or India to play cricket so he can be match fit he might as well be with the other England players in the ODIs. At least he would be with his best friend. I think people like Benkenstein, Flintoff and Pietersen convinced him as well as the spell he had out of international cricket.

Playing in Stanford 20/20 in the West Indies isn't all it is made out to be. I wonder if a player or two wouldn't want to be selected. If players thought the pressure of playing for England is high then the pressure in the Stanford game will be unbearable. Is it possible to play normally? Every little mistake will be highlighted and if England don't win everyone will be looking to place the blame on someone. Maybe the best person to be will be the 12th man.
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