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Old 3rd April 2018, 09:12   #381
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I don't think it's the captaincy, given that it's been an issue for Root since well before he took the reins.
His conversion rate is worse as captain but it was poor when not and trending in the current direction before he took on the reigns.

It is a strange phenomena in that Root often comes to the crease early on, score fluently then gets out once the pressure starts to ease.
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Old 3rd April 2018, 09:12   #382
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I don’t care what it’s done to our conversion rate if we bowl them out tonight/tomorrow.

We could have actually improved the conversion rate if no-one in the 2nd innings made 50 and Wood was out for 49 in the 1st innings but we’d be in a poorer position for it!
We didn't...

So over our winless winter, England's batsmen scored 4 centuries and 22x50, a conversion rate of just 15%.

Our opponents scored 11 centuries and 16x50, conversion rate of 41%.
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Old 3rd April 2018, 15:22   #383
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Winter tally of 50s/100s (Aus/NZ combined)

Cook 0 (1)
Stoneman 4 (0)
Vince 3 (0)
Root 7 (0)
Malan 4 (1)
Bairstow 0 (2)
Stokes 1 (0)
Woakes 1 (0)
Broad 1 (0)
Wood 1 (0)


Chronic really. With no real pace and not playing a proper spinner until the last test of the tour it isn't really surprising that there was no scoreboard pressure.
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Old 14th April 2018, 17:50   #384
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It is my duty to update this thread in light of the county championship starting. And who better to kickstart the domestic season than the man himself, IR Bell with 70 for Warwickshire v Sussex.
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Alastair Cook makes a rare entry onto this thread with his 84 for Essex v Hampshire. He doesnít usually fail to pile on the runs in county cricket. Given that he didnít score an unconverted 50 since last summer it is therefore a surprise that he didnít go on to 3 figures.
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Old 30th April 2018, 18:45   #386
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Alastair Cook makes a rare entry onto this thread with his 84 for Essex v Hampshire. He doesnít usually fail to pile on the runs in county cricket. Given that he didnít score an unconverted 50 since last summer it is therefore a surprise that he didnít go on to 3 figures.
I doubt it was pretty.
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Old 1st May 2018, 10:04   #387
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I doubt it was pretty.
I wouldn't have thought it was. I did highlight that his 88 v SA at the Oval last year was his 100th first class 50. That this is only his second such score since then gives you an idea of his overall rather poor form since then.
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After I was vilified for including scores on here that some felt didn't qualify through the "pretty" criteria, should there be some discussion as to whether domestic 50s count? Particularly as in most cases none of us are able to watch them, therefore pass judgement on their prettiness.

All scores by Bell and Root obviously are eligible, no matter what format or level of the game.
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After I was vilified for including scores on here that some felt didn't qualify through the "pretty" criteria, should there be some discussion as to whether domestic 50s count? Particularly as in most cases none of us are able to watch them, therefore pass judgement on their prettiness.

All scores by Bell and Root obviously are eligible, no matter what format or level of the game.
I think the criteria got a bit confused when unbeaten fifties were mentioned, or where the game situation dictated how the batsman scored, etc. "Pretty fifties" are essentially innings where the batsman has passed 50 with relatively no trouble, then failed to cash in with a big score through a careless or unnecessary shot. Battling to save a game, struggling in adverse conditions etc do not count. As you say, Root and Bell are the exemplars for this thread, as would Vince be if he actually got past 50 on a regular basis.

I'd ignore county cricket, though.
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I think the criteria got a bit confused when unbeaten fifties were mentioned, or where the game situation dictated how the batsman scored, etc. "Pretty fifties" are essentially innings where the batsman has passed 50 with relatively no trouble, then failed to cash in with a big score through a careless or unnecessary shot. Battling to save a game, struggling in adverse conditions etc do not count. As you say, Root and Bell are the exemplars for this thread, as would Vince be if he actually got past 50 on a regular basis.

I'd ignore county cricket, though.
You are Andrew Strauss and I claim my free (to air) competition for mums and kids.
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I think the criteria got a bit confused when unbeaten fifties were mentioned, or where the game situation dictated how the batsman scored, etc. "Pretty fifties" are essentially innings where the batsman has passed 50 with relatively no trouble, then failed to cash in with a big score through a careless or unnecessary shot. Battling to save a game, struggling in adverse conditions etc do not count. As you say, Root and Bell are the exemplars for this thread, as would Vince be if he actually got past 50 on a regular basis.

I'd ignore county cricket, though.
At one time David Gower was the model for this, producing what was often refered to as Object d' Art innings.
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Another one for the collection today. Bell 61 from 93 balls.
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I think Bairstow's effort from last week was a classic of the genre.
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I think Bairstow's effort from last week was a classic of the genre.
This one was from the maestro though.
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This one was from the maestro though.
If Root manages an unconverted 50 today we might well have a nirvana moment for this thread.
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Klaxon alert! With some lovely straight drives and cover drives, Alastair Cook gets a merited entry on to this thread?
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Klaxon alert! With some lovely straight drives and cover drives, Alastair Cook gets a merited entry on to this thread?
Not really. His speciality over the last year or so is double hundreds or nothing much. A half century for him might be a good sign.
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Not really. His speciality over the last year or so is double hundreds or nothing much. A half century for him might be a good sign.
As one of the true experts on discussion what constitutes a pretty fifty, I will bow to your superior knowledge on this subject!
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