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#4881 |
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Join Date: Jun 2013
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#4882 |
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#4883 |
International Material
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,682
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Personally I'd have described Gilchrist as a specialist batsman who was also (or became) quite a reasonable keeper as well.
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#4884 |
Posting God
Join Date: Mar 2007
Team(s): Arkholme Bees, Hackney Grasshoppers, Holy Cross Academicals
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I think he was almost always the keeper when he played for Australia. Whether or not he might have been able to keep down a place as a specialist batsman had they had someone else keeping, I think if he is the keeper he isn't a specialist batsman. Otherwise the term "specialist" has swapped its normal descriptive meaning for a strange evaluative one.
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#4885 |
Posting God
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Manchester
Team(s): England, Lancashire, Man Utd
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I wouldn't have picked Jos but I can't say I'm too disappointed to see him recalled. I just hope he bats like Jos Buttler rather than trying to be too conservative. The decision to move Bairstow up to 5 seems like a no brainer to me.
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#4886 |
Posting God
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 20,271
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Matt Henry may be less complimentary about the batting in Div 2. Well actually he might be very complimentary about it!
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#4887 | |
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sunny Sussex
Team(s): Sussex, England
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#4888 |
International Cricketer
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Berkshire
Team(s): Notts and Forest
Posts: 2,511
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Hopefully he'll offer lots more than Mo did in his last few Tests. If he doesn't the experiment will end swiftly.
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#4889 |
International Material
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,019
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Will it? Why? If you select someone with limited red ball experience (5 games in 3 years) is it fair to reject him before giving him a decent run in first class cricket. All this summer and the forthcoming tours at least. He will still be the same super talented Jos Buttler, even if it doesn't come off for a year or two.
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#4891 |
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: North West England
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It’s good that Bairstow retains the gloves, for England and Bairstow himself who insists he doesn’t want to be in the team just as a batsman.
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#4893 |
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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#4896 | |
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Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,019
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My point is that by Smith saying, I'm selecting on talent not form, not experience even, (Buttler was good in India but so was Hameed) he maybe digging himself a hole. His argument for his selection is still valid with the usual amount of failures which previous selectors have jettisoned players for. Buttler may fail all year long but Smith's justification of his selection still holds good. Talent, especially x-factor super-talent will eventually come through. So keep him in there, at least the ECB have another marketable test player, who people have heard of, even if it takes him out of the franchises. |
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#4898 |
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I don’t know enough about Bess to have a view, although people have been speaking very highly of him.
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#4899 |
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,682
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I think that's more a reflection on the prowess of the other batsmen in the teams Gilchist played it. Had he played for a different country of the era - except possibly India - I very much doubt he'd have been batting at 7 regardless of whether he had the gloves or not. And he sure wasn't picked for his keeping as he displaced Healy who - annoying as he is as a commentator - was a pretty good keeper (there's even an argument that replacing Healy with Gilchrist cost Warnie a lot of wickets over the next few years).
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#4900 |
Posting God
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 20,271
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Is it not more important that he'd be a better batsman and a better keeper than the incumbent?
I've not really seen Foakes play but Bairstow has developed into a good test keeper and I would be surprised if Foakes was better than him.
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