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Old 29th June 2017, 10:33   #1321
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Would leave them right where they belong.

CA has gone behind the back of the ACA once again (as it continually does) and told the players that even though no longer contracted to CA as of 1st of July, they still need to get permission to play in any other competition (which will obviously not be granted unless a CA sanctioned event). Otherwise, once an agreement is reached, they will be banned for 6 months.

Effectively leaving them not only uncontracted, but effectively also stopping them from playing for anyone else. Would love to see the ACA take CA and the ICC on over that. This clause was not there so that CA could make threats as part of a (non) negotiation process. Wonder what the ACCC would say about it.

The players are meeting soon over whether the Aus A tour to SA goes ahead. Hope the players stand their ground, Ashes or not. It's only a bit of distraction from the real (t20) stuff anyway lol.
Me too. Stopping them playing for anyone else..... don't think that would stand up in court. Restraint of trade.
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Old 30th June 2017, 14:03   #1322
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So, are all the Australian international players now unemployed?
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Old 30th June 2017, 14:17   #1323
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From midnight. What about the women? AUS Women v NZ Women at Bristol on Jul 2, 2017
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Old 30th June 2017, 22:02   #1324
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From midnight. What about the women? AUS Women v NZ Women at Bristol on Jul 2, 2017
Apparently, the Women currently on tour are continuing to be paid under the old contract terms, so I read.
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Old 2nd July 2017, 05:44   #1325
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This is getting sillier. CA would like Usman Khawaja (as Captain), Glen Maxwell, Travis Head and Jackson Bird to go on tour for Aus A in South Africa under temporary contract. Although these contracts don't include any payer payments at all, nor will they be remunerated retrospectively if an MOU is eventually agreed upon. They will receive nothing for playing, while their teammates on tour who have multi year contracts with CA, will be paid normally.

Sure that would go down well, with top players now being out of contract in an effort to support the lesser players, while some of these players continue to play and get paid alongside them lol.

Along with the threats instead of negotiations and going out of their way to undermine the position of the cricketers themselves, if this isn't a classical "divide and conquer" strategy designed to split the players and crush the ACA, nothing is.

Shane Watson (speaking on behalf of ACA) has simply laughed off the CA threats about uncontracted players needing permission from CA to play in non sanctioned events. Rightly commenting that any refusal will simply result in litigation (with CA being laughed out of court). The ramifications of this could be large and affect cricket around the world. It looks like there is some opposition to the revised MoU sent out by CA from the BBL clubs also, with some simply refusing to even forward it to the players.

CA needs changes amongst its executives. Looks like they might have been taking lessons from the Windies cricket administration. Cricket isn't simply a corporation where unions need crushing and shareholders need appeasing. CA are temporary custodians of cricket in this country, not confrontational corporate dictators. Seems worse than when Bradman and co were running things. Time for a clean out.
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Old 2nd July 2017, 06:24   #1326
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So, are all the Australian international players now unemployed?
Looks like it, yes. About 230 players overall. There are still some state players on multi year contracts extending beyond the MoU.
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Old 2nd July 2017, 10:37   #1327
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Looks like the A tour to South Africa is not going ahead (unless something drastic happens) as all Aus cricketers, whether still under contract or not, have now refused to play until an MoU deal is reached.

If it gets that far, there is talk of the ACA (who has been busy securing the professional rights of the players) acting on behalf of the players to hire them out on a sub contract basis to CA, for the Ashes lol. If CA aren't careful here they might eventually be bypassed altogether.

http://www.cricket.com.au/news/austr...son/2017-07-02

https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket...2aece7f3f52cd2
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Heard that the players would be willing to sign temporary contracts so the Ashes series goes ahead.
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Old 2nd July 2017, 14:07   #1329
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Heard that the players would be willing to sign temporary contracts so the Ashes series goes ahead.
If that did happen, it would be through the ACA. They are talking (the players) about signing contracts with the ACA, instead of CA. That means CA would have to bargain with the ACA to subcontract the players. Assuming there is no MoU in place by then of course.

The cricketers are already turning over their "intellectual property/merchandising rights" to the ACA (have heard it gained $40 million revenue for CA in the last contract term). So this is now something extra CA will have to bargain for, if they want it back. CA seem to be gradually making themselves less and less relevant.
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http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/...-backers-pour-millions-into-australian-cricketers-hardship-fund-20170710-gx8ggv.html



It is believed the ACA intends to pay the mystery financial supporters back after a new deal is agreed.

However, that would depend on CA agreeing to provide back pay to players to cover their period of unemployment under the terms of a new MOU.

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Given the amount of time it is taking Chris Woakes to recover from a similar injury does Hazlewood's side strain put his involvement in the first Ashes in jeopardy? Also, are Starc and Pattinson both injured again? If so will they be fit to start the Sheffield Shield season?
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Old 31st August 2017, 13:53   #1332
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Given the amount of time it is taking Chris Woakes to recover from a similar injury does Hazlewood's side strain put his involvement in the first Ashes in jeopardy? Also, are Starc and Pattinson both injured again? If so will they be fit to start the Sheffield Shield season?
It's a bit early to start worrying about this.

They'll likely get fit and then get injured again before then anyway.
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Old 10th October 2017, 13:41   #1333
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Pattinson will be unavailable for the Ashes series and looks like having another long rehabilitation. Same old same old, stress fractures. Shame, likely to have been our best strike bowler when fit. So that's one down so far before a ball has been bowled.

Surely this must be close to career ending for him now.

http://www.cricket.com.au/news/james...ate/2017-10-04
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Pattinson will be unavailable for the Ashes series and looks like having another long rehabilitation. Same old same old, stress fractures. Shame, likely to have been our best strike bowler when fit. So that's one down so far before a ball has been bowled.

Surely this must be close to career ending for him now.

http://www.cricket.com.au/news/james...ate/2017-10-04
One of these bowlers who's body just can't stand the strain of fast bowling. There've been quite a few over the years.
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When I saw him in the Ashes in 2015, he looked mis-shaped. Very broad, muscular shoulders and narrow lower back and waist. No doubt from conditioning to up his pace from 80 to 90mph but clearly not a natural physique. No surprise he has succumbed to injury so often.
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