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Old 27th April 2016, 15:13   #121
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As mentioned before though, lots of test matches even between evenly matched sides, are thrashings. The 2005 Ashes was probably unique in having three very close finishes indeed plus two other games that were competitive (although of course Australia walked away with the Lord's test in the end) and the series itself in the balance almost throughout.
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Old 27th April 2016, 16:25   #122
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As mentioned before though, lots of test matches even between evenly matched sides, are thrashings. The 2005 Ashes was probably unique in having three very close finishes indeed plus two other games that were competitive (although of course Australia walked away with the Lord's test in the end) and the series itself in the balance almost throughout.
I still have reservations about that analysis you linked to but that's a slightly different point to that which I'm making. The series themselves have been very lopsided and more because of the poor play of the losing side rather than excellence from the winners.

A better example would be the 2009 Ashes. Close score and lots of swings in momentum even if none of the tests themselves were close. Even then, England's big wins at Lords and the Oval required them to dig deep at times and the quality of much of the play was higher and of greater intensity than in 2015.
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Old 28th April 2016, 01:11   #123
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Possibly Ali but the 2009 England side was pretty indifferent. I think the 2015 vintage was superior. The Aussies harder to call, probably pretty similar on overall merit.
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Old 28th April 2016, 05:02   #124
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Good points made regarding the recent past series played but my eyes are on the 2017 Ashes series, I am counting the days.
(not exactly sure of the number because they have not announced the dates yet)
I hope it is a tense and even contest and if I had my way it would be 2 all going into the fifth test which is decided in the last session on day 5.
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Old 29th April 2016, 09:27   #125
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I like Virat's batting very much. He is aggressive and in the same time he plays with consciousness so that to avoid any blunders. I think he is the best cricketer in the world.
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Old 29th April 2016, 15:56   #126
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I like Virat's batting very much. He is aggressive and in the same time he plays with consciousness so that to avoid any blunders. I think he is the best cricketer in the world.
That's not unreasonable at all, wtachetna. Kohli is an exceptional talent and is up there. I remember during the '11-'12 tour when the older stars struggled for India against some good fast bowling, Kohli stood out as special. Many Aussies were predicting he would end up with the Captaincy then.
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Old 29th April 2016, 16:19   #127
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Possibly Ali but the 2009 England side was pretty indifferent. I think the 2015 vintage was superior. The Aussies harder to call, probably pretty similar on overall merit.
I thought both sides were better in 2009 than what we have seen recently. It was the last series that was enjoyable for being competitive (though a certain one sided series since then was enjoyable for other reasons!).

Seems to be a real lull in the standard of test cricket in recent times. As an Aussie fan, I don't seem to remember them being in so many one sided matches. Possibly our last forays into the subcontinent makes it seem that way (apart from the Ashes).
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Old 29th April 2016, 23:49   #128
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I thought both sides were better in 2009 than what we have seen recently. It was the last series that was enjoyable for being competitive (though a certain one sided series since then was enjoyable for other reasons!).

Seems to be a real lull in the standard of test cricket in recent times. As an Aussie fan, I don't seem to remember them being in so many one sided matches. Possibly our last forays into the subcontinent makes it seem that way (apart from the Ashes).
I agree. Both teams had holes in 2009 and the Aussie attack was modest, but there were bigger issues for both in 2015.
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Old 30th April 2016, 02:02   #129
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Lol, where's the Australia thread so I can criticise Smith's ridiculously leg side technique and lay into his IPL form?
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Old 1st May 2016, 09:38   #131
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Old 1st May 2016, 22:01   #132
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He has been awesome in his last couple of IPL innings, as it happens.
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I like the IPL and the way great players from many different countries play together as opposed to be playing against each other.
Great tournament overall.
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Old 2nd May 2016, 13:16   #134
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I don't dislike the IPL as such, or doubt that it does what you say. I find t20 terrible to watch and dislike the way that test cricket is becoming the poor relation. That means little though and what I like is obviously different to what others will like. I know a lot of people who have been converted to t20 and in the end, if it sells and people want it, that's what we'll get. No problems there.

Then again, taking into account our last summer with that farce at the waca and the rabble that is now the windies featuring in the boxing day test, I can see where t20 could be more appealing.
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Old 4th May 2016, 02:07   #135
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I used to screw my nose up at T20 as I did when the Limited Overs game first started but after a while I had to admit it was not so bad. In saying that if I could only ever have one form of the game it would be Test cricket, the old fashioned way when the two umpires on the field decided who was out etc.
I think Test cricket has benefited from the other two forms of the game in that we are seeing more aggressive big hitters in tests theses days. That can only be good for the game.
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I used to screw my nose up at T20 as I did when the Limited Overs game first started but after a while I had to admit it was not so bad. In saying that if I could only ever have one form of the game it would be Test cricket, the old fashioned way when the two umpires on the field decided who was out etc.
I think Test cricket has benefited from the other two forms of the game in that we are seeing more aggressive big hitters in tests theses days. That can only be good for the game.
Pretty much the same as I see it. T20 is fun, but mostly instantly forgettable. But a lot of ODIs are the same for me too. Tests are where my main interest lies.

Btw, there's an IPL thread in this forum if you want to discuss that specifically: http://cricket247.org/community/forumdisplay.php?f=12
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I used to screw my nose up at T20 as I did when the Limited Overs game first started but after a while I had to admit it was not so bad. In saying that if I could only ever have one form of the game it would be Test cricket, the old fashioned way when the two umpires on the field decided who was out etc.
I think Test cricket has benefited from the other two forms of the game in that we are seeing more aggressive big hitters in tests theses days. That can only be good for the game.
I would argue the other way and say T20 cricket has had a negative effect on Test batting. Yes, we see some wonderful hundreds scored at quicker than a run a ball, but the amount of collapses taking place shows that the ability to dig in and bat in tough conditions is a dying art.
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I would argue the other way and say T20 cricket has had a negative effect on Test batting. Yes, we see some wonderful hundreds scored at quicker than a run a ball, but the amount of collapses taking place shows that the ability to dig in and bat in tough conditions is a dying art.
But that's been happening for ages, before the advent of T20. In the 2000s test pitches flattened out, which allowed Aus's new brand of attacking cricket to flourish, but also reduced batsmen's exposure to tricky pitches and the need for bedding in. I'm skeptical of the effect T20 has had on this aspect.
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But that's been happening for ages, before the advent of T20. In the 2000s test pitches flattened out, which allowed Aus's new brand of attacking cricket to flourish, but also reduced batsmen's exposure to tricky pitches and the need for bedding in. I'm skeptical of the effect T20 has had on this aspect.
I can't think of many batsmen coming through now who look as though they could become great Test batsmen, and by that I mean able to dig and rescue draws. Once Cook and Amla go there won't be many left in the game. Will India ever produce another Dravid again, or the Windies a Chanderpaul? More likely these were the last of their kind, which is a shame.
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I can't think of many batsmen coming through now who look as though they could become great Test batsmen, and by that I mean able to dig and rescue draws. Once Cook and Amla go there won't be many left in the game. Will India ever produce another Dravid again, or the Windies a Chanderpaul? More likely these were the last of their kind, which is a shame.
You are missing AB from this list I think. He's done that in the past. Rahane looks as though he has that in his locker, although I don't recall him doing that as of yet. He has a lot of ability and seems to be underrated because of his lack of real power.
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