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Old 25th April 2017, 12:03   #61
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It should be pointed out that another not so elegant batsman has 98 first class fifties, 53 of them being test 50s. 24 of these come in the last 4 years and in 48 tests. Anyone care to guess the identity of this player?
A certain ex-England captain?
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Old 25th April 2017, 12:44   #62
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A certain ex-England captain?
Correct! I think it is nigh on a racing certainty that he will achieve the 100 fifties in the next few months if not sooner.

Bell I think will continue to string us along by either getting a load of scores just shy of 50 or even scoring a few tons.
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Misbah surely needs a mention on this thread although perhaps it's hard to describe any of his innings as pretty. He was left stranded on 99 yesterday, his 37th test half-century to just 10 tons. In ODIs, his record is even more spectacular - 42 half centuries and none converted.
He hit the last ball before lunch for 6 then meandered along badly, mostly with the tail after lunch, until they were 8 down, when he did start playing some shots but then got stuck in the high 90s. Very much his own fault and if Atherton had been captaining there could have been a declaration on him.
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Old 25th April 2017, 21:08   #64
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He hit the last ball before lunch for 6 then meandered along badly, mostly with the tail after lunch, until they were 8 down, when he did start playing some shots but then got stuck in the high 90s. Very much his own fault and if Atherton had been captaining there could have been a declaration on him.
Misbah is 12th all time on the test six list and his ratio of sixes)matches played is better than BMac, Gilly and Fred among others!
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Old 26th April 2017, 00:38   #65
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Misbah is 12th all time on the test six list and his ratio of sixes)matches played is better than BMac, Gilly and Fred among others!
He's a good batsman and an excellent hitter of spin bowling, particularly mediocre spin. I love the guy and think he gets piles of unfair criticism but he really should have got his hundred.
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I dunno, how about the Joe Root "nifty fifty" thread?
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Rooties Nifty Fifties.
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this is the international cricket thread
Given that Gbg says the above every time the man named in the thread title is mentioned in a post I fully support the renaming of the thread. Rooty's (or Rootie's) Nifty Fifties sounds good. With correctly inserted apostrophe.
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Given that Gbg says the above every time the man named in the thread title is mentioned in a post I fully support the renaming of the thread. Rooty's (or Rootie's) Nifty Fifties sounds good. With correctly inserted apostrophe.
I didn't originally name it including him directly, some cheeky chappie was responsible for adding him in! If Root continues to score nifty fifties' I might change it, but for now the arch villain of the piece must keep his place as the denizen...........
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I didn't originally name it including him directly, some cheeky chappie was responsible for adding him in! If Root continues to score nifty fifties' I might change it, but for now the arch villain of the piece must keep his place as the denizen...........
I don't think 99 counts as a pretty fifty. After all, you may recall that when Cook was struggling in 2014-15 with no century for nearly 2 years, Simon Hughes defended him passionately in desperation, mounted a defence of "why all the fuss about three figures, high nineties is just as good". (In fact the highest 90 Cook achieved in that period was 95 and his next highest was 79).

When Root is captain, he could go one of two ways - spurred on by the captaincy to score very highly, or loses form weighed down by the responsibility. I think it is more common for batsmen-captains to do well initially.
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I don't think 99 counts as a pretty fifty. After all, you may recall that when Cook was struggling in 2014-15 with no century for nearly 2 years, Simon Hughes defended him passionately, the main point being "why all the fuss about three figures, high nineties is just as good". (In fact the highest 90 Cook achieved in that period was 95 and his next highest was 79).

When Root is captain, he could go one of two ways - spurred on by the captaincy to score very highly, or loses form weighed down by the responsibility. I think it is more common for batsmen-captains to do well initially.
I think I pointed out the value of the 99 above although that was before Warwickshire definitively saved the game. You might also recall that few have been as critical as me of the nigh on deification of Cook during that period (especially from the likes of Hughes) at a time when his performances did not remotely merit it and I also separately covered that Cook's conversion record in the last 4 years is very disappointing too.
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I think I pointed out the value of the 99 above although that was before Warwickshire definitively saved the game. You might also recall that few have been as critical as me of the nigh on deification of Cook during that period (especially from the likes of Hughes) at a time when his performances did not remotely merit it and I also separately covered that Cook's conversion record in the last 4 years is very disappointing too.
Yes, very true.

I've edited my post to more accurately reflect Hughes's position.
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The naming of the thread is not a problem as any follower of cricket should understand its meaning. It's the constant reference to the recent performances of the now county batsman Ian Bell that is causing the confusion. I think over time it will work itself out.
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The naming of the thread is not a problem as any follower of cricket should understand its meaning. It's the constant reference to the recent performances of the now county batsman Ian Bell that is causing the confusion. I think over time it will work itself out.
With his name in the title it's not surprising that people keep using him as a comparator. Thus would stop if the title was changed.
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With his name in the title it's not surprising that people keep using him as a comparator. Thus would stop if the title was changed.
The title has to refer to a former international player though because it could be more confusing if it was a current player, eg Root, known for a poor conversion rate who then went on a streak of centuries.
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The title has to refer to a former international player though because it could be more confusing if it was a current player, eg Root, known for a poor conversion rate who then went on a streak of centuries.
But it's because he's a former international player that gbg etc get cross when his name keeps coming up on a thread on the international board.
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But it's because he's a former international player that gbg etc get cross when his name keeps coming up on a thread on the international board.
There's no problem. We can still remark on Bell's heroics and Geebes can keep on saying wrong thread, until he feels better about the fact that Bopara's international career was, with very few exceptions, awful.
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Misbah surely needs a mention on this thread although perhaps it's hard to describe any of his innings as pretty. He was left stranded on 99 yesterday, his 37th test half-century to just 10 tons. In ODIs, his record is even more spectacular - 42 half centuries and none converted.
I note now that Misbah has now collected another 99, this time not unbeaten and now has 38 half-centuries.

Just as an aside I've actually been looking at a number of records from the great players from time to time. Unsurprisingly Bradman scored only 13 half-centuries to 29 tons. More symmetrically Steve Smith has 20 tons and 20 fifties.
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Another nifty 50 odd from Joe Root I see.
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Pretty little fifty of a different kind for Misbah so far today - 1* off 51 balls at the mo.
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Pretty little fifty of a different kind for Misbah so far today - 1* off 51 balls at the mo.
And ends with him scoring 59!
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