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Old 1st March 2017, 22:52   #101
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None of that has to do with what I've just said.
Apart from the bit about potential that did, you mean? I could have quoted the much longer post from up the thread a bit, which was about US sport but didn't think it would confuse you too much. Sorry if it did.
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Old 4th March 2017, 12:22   #102
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Apart from the bit about potential that did, you mean? I could have quoted the much longer post from up the thread a bit, which was about US sport but didn't think it would confuse you too much. Sorry if it did.
You talked about hockey being a major sport in the US, nothing about China. Although I havent read the piece you referred to. WOuld be better if you actually posted or summarised whta your point is. I'm not a mind reader
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Old 6th March 2017, 17:45   #103
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You talked about hockey being a major sport in the US, nothing about China. Although I havent read the piece you referred to. WOuld be better if you actually posted or summarised whta your point is. I'm not a mind reader
Pretty clear that I was just disagreeing with your post about the US having 3 major sports by saying that there was a 4th also ahead of soccer. As I said, it was only a few posts further up. I didn't say anything about China apart from referencing Dylan Moran's view of potential. You can Google or Youtube him riffing on the subject but the basic point is that your potential is best left untapped because there's a lot less of it than you think. It was a slightly frivolous point (Dylan Moran is a pretty frivolous guy) but with the underlying truth that talking about potential is a pretty vague sort of musing.
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Old 6th March 2017, 17:56   #104
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Slightly off topic now?

Ireland have won a couple of ODIs v UAE this week, comfortably too.
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Old 6th March 2017, 18:33   #105
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Slightly off topic now?

Ireland have won a couple of ODIs v UAE this week, comfortably too.
Fair point, although Dylan Moran should get more mentions.

You'd have to rate UAE as a pretty weak side though.
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Old 6th March 2017, 20:23   #106
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Pretty clear that I was just disagreeing with your post about the US having 3 major sports by saying that there was a 4th also ahead of soccer. As I said, it was only a few posts further up. I didn't say anything about China apart from referencing Dylan Moran's view of potential. You can Google or Youtube him riffing on the subject but the basic point is that your potential is best left untapped because there's a lot less of it than you think. It was a slightly frivolous point (Dylan Moran is a pretty frivolous guy) but with the underlying truth that talking about potential is a pretty vague sort of musing.
Again, nothing you say furthers the point I was making. YOu should read the post in its proper context. It would help.

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Slightly off topic now?

Ireland have won a couple of ODIs v UAE this week, comfortably too.
Ireland have been a solid ODI team for a while now. Its a shame they'll be cut from the next tourney.
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Old 6th March 2017, 20:33   #107
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Again, nothing you say furthers the point I was making. YOu should read the post in its proper context. It would help.



Ireland have been a solid ODI team for a while now. Its a shame they'll be cut from the next tourney.
Will they? I thought there was going to be a mini tournament between the 9th ranked side and those below them for the last two slots. The state of Zimbabwean cricket would suggest at least one of Ireland and Afghanistan should have a good shot.
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Will they? I thought there was going to be a mini tournament between the 9th ranked side and those below them for the last two slots. The state of Zimbabwean cricket would suggest at least one of Ireland and Afghanistan should have a good shot.
Yeah, thats what the ICC is saying but if we were to look at the table for now for example, that would include the Windies. I don't think the Windies would lose out on tha ttype of qualification.

I personally believe the top 10 ranked ODI sides should be part of the world cup, being divided into groups based on their rankings (tennis like seeding).

The next 5 ranked teams (11-15) should then play through qualifications and the top two teams go through to the world cup. Once again, seeding between those 2 sides.

You eventually have 2 groups of 6. Tha twould give far more opportunities to teams like Afg, Irl, Zimb, UAE etc as they are pretty similar in stature.
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Old 7th March 2017, 21:42   #109
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Again, nothing you say furthers the point I was making. YOu should read the post in its proper context. It would help.
It's not really my job to further the points you were making, isn't that what you're supposed to do? If what you actually mean is that I wasn't really discussing the same thing as you were then that's vaguely fair enough, as what I was actually doing was pointing out holes in your argument. You know it was just a two line post I quoted though, right, not a PhD thesis? There wasn't all that much context to consider.
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Old 22nd April 2017, 15:22   #110
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If cricket is to spread into China it has a long way to go. They played Saudi Arabia today in a one day game and lost by 390 runs. Yes, that's right, 390 runs - 418 plays 28
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Without seeing all the criteria, I would say it's a welcome move, and Ireland shouldn't have any problems over finance, governance or development. It could prove more problematic for Afghanistan though.
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Without seeing all the criteria, I would say it's a welcome move, and Ireland shouldn't have any problems over finance, governance or development. It could prove more problematic for Afghanistan though.
Announced a sponsorship deal with Turkish Airlines today and Eirsport are televising the tri-series between Ireland, NZ and Bangladesh. Certainly heading in the right direction logistically.
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If Ireland becomes a test nation would it mean Irish players in county cricket would be classed as overseas?
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If Ireland becomes a test nation would it mean Irish players in county cricket would be classed as overseas?
Probably. Particularly once Brexit is completed.

Which would probably mean the counties dropping them like hot potatoes which would, in turn, strengthen the Irish inter-provincial comps.

What will be interesting is if that set up can tempt some English players across the Irish Sea.
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Old 27th April 2017, 20:25   #116
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Probably. Particularly once Brexit is completed.

Which would probably mean the counties dropping them like hot potatoes which would, in turn, strengthen the Irish inter-provincial comps.

What will be interesting is if that set up can tempt some English players across the Irish Sea.
Losing the county link would probably harm the development of Irish cricket in the short term. I can imagine that, yes, some unicorn standard players might play in Ireland. Maybe in the medium term the ECB and Cricket Ireland will get together to launch a t20 franchise in Dublin.
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Losing the county link would probably harm the development of Irish cricket in the short term. I can imagine that, yes, some unicorn standard players might play in Ireland. Maybe in the medium term the ECB and Cricket Ireland will get together to launch a t20 franchise in Dublin.
I think it is almost inevitable that Irish cricket may take a couple of steps back before heading forward again as they try and grow the inter-pro comp. Also, they are on the cusp of losing the golden generation to retirement.

Maybe they need to try a similar route to the NASL in the States; get a few big name ageing pros to play who might attract people to attend etc and give the inter-pros some momentum.
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Probably. Particularly once Brexit is completed.

Which would probably mean the counties dropping them like hot potatoes which would, in turn, strengthen the Irish inter-provincial comps.

What will be interesting is if that set up can tempt some English players across the Irish Sea.
Not quite - Ian Porterfield, Boyd and David Rankin, Greg Thompson, Craig Young, James Shannon, Paul Stirling, Gary Wilson and Stuart Thompson are all born in Northern Ireland and are UK citizens irrespective of whether they play for Ireland or not. Same as they are now.
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I think it is almost inevitable that Irish cricket may take a couple of steps back before heading forward again as they try and grow the inter-pro comp. Also, they are on the cusp of losing the golden generation to retirement.

Maybe they need to try a similar route to the NASL in the States; get a few big name ageing pros to play who might attract people to attend etc and give the inter-pros some momentum.
Not sure about that, Ireland has first class cricket now, and a number of former county championship players play in it like Ed Joyce, Kevin O'Brien, George Dockrell, and Gary Thompson. It means that Ireland now have a pool of about 50 plus players as well as the English county based players to pick from. And nearly all of them are Irish born. That's a first in my lifetime.
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Probably. Particularly once Brexit is completed.

Which would probably mean the counties dropping them like hot potatoes which would, in turn, strengthen the Irish inter-provincial comps.

What will be interesting is if that set up can tempt some English players across the Irish Sea.
I don't necessarily think that those from ROI would necessarily be classed as 'overseas' as UK government has talked of the common travel agreement that pre-dated EEC as still being in force, i.e. ROI citizens were free to come and work/live in UK. As well as that many Northern Irish residents will only have ROI citizenship due to cultural reasons.
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