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Old 21st August 2017, 16:37   #101
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ODIs and 20/20

Squad: Sunil Ambris, Devendra Bishoo, Miguel Cummins, Chris Gayle, Jason Holder (captain), Kyle Hope, Shai Hope, Alzarri Joseph, Evin Lewis, Jason Mohammed (Vice Captain), Ashley Nurse, Rovman Powell, Marlon Samuels, Jerome Taylor and Kesrick Williams.

Those three should have been in the Test side as well as Chanderpaul helping the younger batsmen.

Chanderpaul for Lancs 8 matches 67.44.
Yes, it's a real shame how so many great players retire from international cricket long before they actually retire from playing the game. It is sad to see WI doing so badly while Chanders is still around; ditto SL and Sangakkara. Chanders made his debut very young but the side had a very nice cross-section of ages at that time, and I'm sure he would have profited from that.
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Old 21st August 2017, 18:19   #102
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At least one can say that Sangakkara and Chanderpaul deserved long service awards. They have earned the right to determine their own going. In other countries, high quality test players have been forced out before their time and without suitable replacements.
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Old 21st August 2017, 20:42   #103
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Yes, it's a real shame how so many great players retire from international cricket long before they actually retire from playing the game. It is sad to see WI doing so badly while Chanders is still around; ditto SL and Sangakkara. Chanders made his debut very young but the side had a very nice cross-section of ages at that time, and I'm sure he would have profited from that.
Chanderpaul didn't retire voluntarily. he was jettisoned by the West Indies board even though he wanted to play on.
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Old 21st August 2017, 23:20   #104
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Chanderpaul was also in horrible form when he was dropped and did look shot, although it could be argued that he wasn't given long enough to regain his form. He's had a good enough championship season, certainly - behind only the giant figures of Sanga, Ballance and Kerrigan in the Div 1 batting averages.
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Old 22nd August 2017, 00:25   #105
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Are you looking at Kerrigan's bowling average there?
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Old 22nd August 2017, 10:10   #106
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Chanderpaul didn't retire voluntarily. he was jettisoned by the West Indies board even though he wanted to play on.
Thanks, SLU, I missed that. Fashionable though it is to say so: what a bunch of chumps.
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Yup, two fairly evenly matched sides, 1-1.

And Hope, Braithwaite and Roach certainly improved their averages.
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Old 30th August 2017, 18:13   #108
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Yup, two fairly evenly matched sides, 1-1.

And Hope, Braithwaite and Roach certainly improved their averages.
Indeed. Once West Indies got a proper warm up match in at Edgbaston, they were fully prepared for the challenge of Test cricket.
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Indeed. Once West Indies got a proper warm up match in at Edgbaston, they were fully prepared for the challenge of Test cricket.
Should've just been a one test series.
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I hear that Chris Gayle now wants to come back to test cricket.

Bandwagon, jumping on.
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I hear that Chris Gayle now wants to come back to test cricket.

Bandwagon, jumping on.
Technically he has never retired from Tests, so there's nothing new there. The fact he has been recalled to the ODI team suggests there has been a thawing in the relationship between players and and board which should be an extra positive.
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Technically he has never retired from Tests, so there's nothing new there. The fact he has been recalled to the ODI team suggests there has been a thawing in the relationship between players and and board which should be an extra positive.
What I meant was that he is just NOW expressing his desire to return to the test team. No such statement after the Windies' devastating defeat at Edgbaston.
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I hear that Chris Gayle now wants to come back to test cricket. ...
The West Indies would be wise to carefully consider whether he is now good enough for test cricket and the possible effect on morale.
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Yup, two fairly evenly matched sides, 1-1.

And Hope, Braithwaite and Roach certainly improved their averages.
Still not really. The series is tied but WI still a much inferior side.

Can't see why WI would want Gayle back: never a great test record, although an occasionally effective flayer of attacks on flat tracks and now past it. He'd be hung out to dry by good pace bowling now. He's not looked the force he was in T20 recently, even.
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What I meant was that he is just NOW expressing his desire to return to the test team. No such statement after the Windies' devastating defeat at Edgbaston.
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So, will the cricketing world see you in whites again?

I cherish Test cricket the most. I treasure my time in whites for West Indies because that's the format for which I have worked the hardest. Two triple centuries and an average of above 40 speaks for my Test cricket credentials. While I still want to play Test cricket, at least one last match, I'm not sure if my body will agree with the demands of the five-day game. But yes... one last time will be good.
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Can't see why WI would want Gayle back: never a great test record, although an occasionally effective flayer of attacks on flat tracks and now past it. He'd be hung out to dry by good pace bowling now. He's not looked the force he was in T20 recently, even.
He'd score more runs than Kieran Powell surely?
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What I meant was that he is just NOW expressing his desire to return to the test team. No such statement after the Windies' devastating defeat at Edgbaston.
I doubt anyone asked him then. As KYS posted, he has said plenty of times that he'd like to play again, as I'm sure the Bravos would and many others.
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He'd score more runs than Kieran Powell surely?
I think he and Brathwaite would make a decent, contrasting opening partnership. I doubt he will play again, the bigger shame is that he hasn't played more in recent years. Always thought Gayle was an underrated cricketer.
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...Always thought Gayle was an underrated cricketer.
I'd have said "overhyped", but there you go...
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I'd have said "overhyped", but there you go...
If a guy who has two Test triple tons, an ODI double ton and 2 T20I centuries (alongwith an unreal number of T20 centuries) is in some way overhyped, I don't know anything any more.

Coming to his Test selection, it wouldn't be the worst idea in the world especially if he feels fit enough. And there will probably be far fewer drops at slip too.

Gayle for Powell and Darren Bravo for Kyle Hope would give so much stability to that team.
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