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Old 25th August 2017, 11:50   #21
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Gabs nabs Cook.

Bit of pressure on the new boys, which is good.
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Old 25th August 2017, 11:52   #22
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And now Roach nabs Westley. The promise of the early innings v Saffers feels some time ago now.
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Feels like a selection test test for 3 ashes positions. Westley out. Borderline selection??
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Old 25th August 2017, 11:53   #24
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And now Roach nabs Westley. The promise of the early innings v Saffers feels some time ago now.
Time for him to be sent back to county cricket? I'd like to think so.
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Old 25th August 2017, 11:54   #25
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Feels like a selection test test for 3 ashes positions. Westley out. Borderline selection??
I'm a fan but his last two dismissals are pretty worrying. No swing.

Will be really interesting to see what they do with the squad if Westley, Stoneman and Malan don't score many here or at Lord's. might be forced into a Ballance, Hales or Lyth recall. Not sure you could pick uncapped guys like Lawrence or Clarke.
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And now Roach nabs Westley. The promise of the early innings v Saffers feels some time ago now.
Two appalling (identical) dismissals in a row. He won't make consistent runs at test level playing across the line. Both he and Jennings appear to have gaping holes in their techniques.
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Stoneman stonewalled.
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Oh dear. England's top order remains an absolute shambles. Hameed and Hales should root out their passports.
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Hameed's been awful against pace bowling this year from what I hear and was certainly more at home against India's spinners. He won't fill me with confidence for down under. Think we might start with Stoneman come what may and from what Bayliss has said Jennings may well be the reserve opener.

Lawrence or Clarke look like the way to go in the middle order because the experienced selections aren't doing much. Don't know too much about either of their games really. Obviously starting in Oz is the concern once again but someone has to! Big question is number 3.

Any road up, it's great to see more fight from WI. Gabriel adds so much but Roach has been superb, too. Biggest worry has always been their batting, though, but a good start at least.
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England lose 3 early wickets as predictably as leaves falling in Autumn...
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And Root receives a life off a terrible drop.
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Hameed's been awful against pace bowling this year from what I hear and was certainly more at home against India's spinners. He won't fill me with confidence for down under. Think we might start with Stoneman come what may and from what Bayliss has said Jennings may well be the reserve opener.

Lawrence or Clarke look like the way to go in the middle order because the experienced selections aren't doing much. Don't know too much about either of their games really. Obviously starting in Oz is the concern once again but someone has to! Big question is number 3.

Any road up, it's great to see more fight from WI. Gabriel adds so much but Roach has been superb, too. Biggest worry has always been their batting, though, but a good start at least.
Jennings was called up this morning as a precaution as Cook has a niggle, so you are probably right he will be in the reckoning. However, Hameed got his call up for India based on a lot of county runs where he must have played a lot of seam bowling, so he must be able to play it. Perhaps not proven against the pace of Starc and co, but then I've not seen any real ability from anyone else. Whoever they choose, they still have a problem at 3 and they'd probably be better off picking a bowler instead of a number 5 batsman.
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Sometimes the easy ones are hard....
I took a couple of absolute stormers at gully in my old club days...and also dropped some utter dollies. I think it's down to concentration most of the time....very easy for the mind to wander towards thoughts of what's for tea, what beer is on at the pub afterwards, etc.
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I took a couple of absolute stormers at gully in my old club days...and also dropped some utter dollies. I think it's down to concentration most of the time....very easy for the mind to wander towards thoughts of what's for tea, what beer is on at the pub afterwards, etc.
Swann made a point in a recent Test that some players you just don't expect to edge it and when they finally do, you drop it as you're a split second too late.
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I took a couple of absolute stormers at gully in my old club days...and also dropped some utter dollies. I think it's down to concentration most of the time....very easy for the mind to wander towards thoughts of what's for tea, what beer is on at the pub afterwards, etc.
A lot of people don't like slip or gully. I have the same problem after about 20 balls, square leg or cover you're in the game for a couple of balls every over.
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Woakes had to have a game and ideally two this summer and who else are they going to leave out?
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I took a couple of absolute stormers at gully in my old club days...and also dropped some utter dollies. I think it's down to concentration most of the time....very easy for the mind to wander towards thoughts of what's for tea, what beer is on at the pub afterwards, etc.
I always preferred the ones where you don't actually have time to think, you just make a reaction catch. My best ones were at gully or slip. Waiting two minutes for a steepler at cow corner to come down and my mind and hands weren't always where they should have been.
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Swann made a point in a recent Test that some players you just don't expect to edge it and when they finally do, you drop it as you're a split second too late.
You'd always fancy an edge from Root though, albeit usually from a looser shot.

Malan gone. So that's, what, 30 runs from the three county players in the top order.
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