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Old 19th September 2017, 17:08   #61
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Have to say Old Trafford looks lovely today in the sunshine with all the rebuilding completed.
I think The Point on its own looked ridiculous but now they've built the hotel in the same style it looks rather good. It's a decent ground now IMO.
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Old 19th September 2017, 17:15   #62
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Funny how a team so strong in T20 struggles in ODIs to the degree Windies does. It is the building of an innings that seems a lost art.
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Old 19th September 2017, 17:28   #63
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Old 19th September 2017, 18:00   #64
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I think The Point on its own looked ridiculous but now they've built the hotel in the same style it looks rather good. It's a decent ground now IMO.
It's great, I think they should get guaranteed Test cricket every season now they've done all the work.
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Old 19th September 2017, 18:18   #65
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It's great, I think they should get guaranteed Test cricket every season now they've done all the work.
But they haven't got a test next year, just one-day stuff.
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Old 19th September 2017, 18:20   #66
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I think The Point on its own looked ridiculous but now they've built the hotel in the same style it looks rather good. It's a decent ground now IMO.
Yes. I like the quirky stuff that the hotel has brought in, e.g.the row of beds. Not sure who's responsible for the sofas we've seen today.
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Bit daft of Hales to get himself out in this fairly low pressure chase. A good return in this series would make him a decent contender for an Ashes spot
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50 for Bairstow. Good start as England's new opener, potentially for the long term.
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The Yorkshire connection are getting it done at Old Trafford.
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Old 20th September 2017, 07:23   #72
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50 for Bairstow. Good start as England's new opener, potentially for the long term.
Maybe the Roy saga, should he be dropped, shouldn't he, will be itself dropped

43 and 100no from his opening efforts, not bad for openers...... Of course he won't sustain that, play against a better bowling attack and under more pressured situations than it ended up being.


Have to wonder how different it might have been if Chris Gayle or Shai Hope had gone on from starts, might have been a little more testing if their tail wasn't quite so tail like and long.

I think they summed it up well in commentary, England's batting looks strong, the bowling still has question marks. They did spoil it by mentioning Wood, need to realise speed isn't the be all and end all, you need accuracy first and foremost and if the bowler is quicker than most then that's a bonus.

Not that I'm convinced by Willey who is in a run of 1/39, 0/43, 0/23, 1/34, 1/8, 0/32, 2/47, 0/36, 0/46, 0/32 and 0/42 since he last took more than two wickets. That's 5/382 in 11 ODIs @ 76.4 and for those persuaded by ER over averages, even though the triumvirate are linked and therefore you often get low one with another, he goes at all but a run a ball (389 deliveries)

Perhaps most worrying for the Willster is bowling only 35 deliveries average per ODI, fair enough England use six bowlers (too) often, but he's rather lucky to be getting continued games with a high average, relatively high ER and only bowling six overs average (in recent games)
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Not that I'm convinced by Willey who is in a run of 1/39, 0/43, 0/23, 1/34, 1/8, 0/32, 2/47, 0/36, 0/46, 0/32 and 0/42 since he last took more than two wickets. That's 5/382 in 11 ODIs @ 76.4 and for those persuaded by ER over averages, even though the triumvirate are linked and therefore you often get low one with another, he goes at all but a run a ball (389 deliveries)

Perhaps most worrying for the Willster is bowling only 35 deliveries average per ODI, fair enough England use six bowlers (too) often, but he's rather lucky to be getting continued games with a high average, relatively high ER and only bowling six overs average (in recent games)
I was a bit surprised to see Willey get the nod ahead of Ball and Curran yesterday. I suspect he might be left out sooner rather than later. He is a good fielder but his batting appears to offer little value in international cricket.
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Well played Bairstow -- top stuff.
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Well played Bairstow -- top stuff.
EVIDENCE taking the gloves off him can work to England's advantage?
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Have to say Old Trafford looks lovely today in the sunshine with all the rebuilding completed.
They need to do something about the building that looks like a big, red fan heater, though, and why does the new hotel allow guests to take their beds and sofas outside to watch the cricket?

Rather depressing that England had 4 Yorkshiremen and another Yorkshire player in the team, thereby denying them the opportunity to play in a more important game yesterday.

Well done to Bairstow, though, on a very good opening debut and some good stuff from Rashid too.
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Johnny B is a good player.
But should he be replacing Roy? He builds an innings nicely and takes responsibility, he would be in my team. But probably not as Hales opening partner - a quick 30 at a SR of 150 really sets a tone at the start of an innings and allows Hales to find his feet. The thing that has always impressed me with Roy is that he plays to the needs of the team, he does not try to build slow and steady to bolster his figures, rather he blasts from the start.
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EVIDENCE taking the gloves off him can work to England's advantage?
They haven't taken the gloves off him in the ODI team. He isn't the incumbent and with a motto of 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' they're not going to take the gloves off Jos unless he starts to really screw up. Same with YJB in the Test Team, you can't take the gloves off him because a batsman up the order keeps failing. If you do you risk both positions. There's no guarantee the person you bring in as wk/bat would perform and there's no guarantee that YJB will perform either without the gloves. He's driven to do what his goals are, and if I know him as far as the ODI team is concerned his first goal is getting established in the team, his second will be to have eyes on it as a wk/bat, which, let's face it in 50 over he could do at opener. But that depends on how Jos performs so it won't be soon, if ever!
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I was a bit surprised to see Willey get the nod ahead of Ball and Curran yesterday. I suspect he might be left out sooner rather than later. He is a good fielder but his batting appears to offer little value in international cricket.
He's in because he's a left armer, that's it surely? He offers little if the ball doesn't swing and isn't trusted to bowl at the end much.

He doesn't strike me as being much better than Harry Gurney. Obviously he can bat an field which is an improvement though.
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