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Old 22nd December 2007, 23:48   #81
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I know that, but I reckon if we made a list of most ardent supporters of Ian you'd be fair high up and if we made a similar list for Paul Collingwood... well actually Collingwood5 would be on some kind of restraining order list.

As for mistletoe I've got some here although drink might have to be taken first.
I freely admit Bell is my favourite player and if he is under attack I stand up for him if it is justified. If I had the mistletoe to hand Collingwood 5 wouldn't be my first choice encounter under it, however much drink had been taken
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Old 22nd December 2007, 23:52   #82
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It seems FBU and I were thinking along the same lines, and posted at roughly the same time - I didn't see her post when I clicked the box.

Don't know about FBU but I got my figures from Cricinfo records for the year 2007 and added the test and ODI totals together myself using a pen and paper!
Yes I got them from cricinfo also using pen and paper probably at the same time.
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Old 23rd December 2007, 11:29   #83
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I freely admit Bell is my favourite player and if he is under attack I stand up for him if it is justified. If I had the mistletoe to hand Collingwood 5 wouldn't be my first choice encounter under it, however much drink had been taken
You do know that he's 6'1" tall, dark, handsome and with muscles like Adonis do you? Oh, my mistake, I was talking about myself again. Actually the first two bits are true.

On another note, good stats again MF and FBU.
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Old 24th December 2007, 21:16   #84
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1000 Test runs scored by England batsmen.
More batsmen got 1000 runs than any other year in 2006 but we didn't seem to win much in that year.

1947 - Compton
1961 - Barrington
1963 - Barrington
1973 - Fletcher
1974 - Amiss
1982 - Botham, Gower
1986 - Gower
1990 - Gooch
1991 - Gooch
1994 - Atherton
1995 - Atherton
1998 - Stewart
2002 - Vaughan
2003 - Trescothick
2004 - Trescothick
2005 - Trescothick
2006 - Pietersen, Collingwood, Strauss, Cook
2007 - Pietersen
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I am but a pirate.
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Old 24th December 2007, 22:48   #86
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Keira Knightly did, but that was a film.
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Keira Knightly did, but that was a film.
You could try phoning her up and asking anyway.
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1000 Test runs scored by England batsmen.
More batsmen got 1000 runs than any other year in 2006 but we didn't seem to win much in that year.

1947 - Compton
1961 - Barrington
1963 - Barrington
1973 - Fletcher
1974 - Amiss
1982 - Botham, Gower
1986 - Gower
1990 - Gooch
1991 - Gooch
1994 - Atherton
1995 - Atherton
1998 - Stewart
2002 - Vaughan
2003 - Trescothick
2004 - Trescothick
2005 - Trescothick
2006 - Pietersen, Collingwood, Strauss, Cook
2007 - Pietersen
2008 - Bell?
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2008 - Bell?
The recent glut of players getting over 1000 runs a year is due to the number of tests played more than anything else.
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Old 25th December 2007, 11:15   #91
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The recent glut of players getting over 1000 runs a year is due to the number of tests played more than anything else.
Indeed. There were loads of the buggers in 2006, particularly and four of them were against that depleted Pakistan attack.
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Old 25th December 2007, 18:42   #92
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The recent glut of players getting over 1000 runs a year is due to the number of tests played more than anything else.
A combination of that and pitches in England getting flatter, to ensure that they last 5 days so as to maximise revenue.
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A combination of that and pitches in England getting flatter, to ensure that they last 5 days so as to maximise revenue.
Indeed those factors are related as well.
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A combination of that and pitches in England getting flatter, to ensure that they last 5 days so as to maximise revenue.
As an England fan perhaps I would say this but English wickets (and weather conditions) tend to offer some of the best balanced tests in terms of the contest between bat and ball. It's rare to get a flat track bore draw and all of the recent draws I can recall were rain affected at least to an extent.
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As an England fan perhaps I would say this but English wickets (and weather conditions) tend to offer some of the best balanced tests in terms of the contest between bat and ball. It's rare to get a flat track bore draw and all of the recent draws I can recall were rain affected at least to an extent.
I have to agree. Having the Dukes ball and different conditions at each of the Test grounds must make it one of the best countries for Tests. Then in the summer we have the longer daylight hours. We also have the fastest draining ground at Lords and the hovercover at both Lords and Old Trafford plus all the history.
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Two of our batsmen are in the record books after the Sri Lanka series.

Kevin Pietersen passed 3000 runs in his 33rd test match, equalling the achievement of Herbert Sutcliffe.
Of course KP has been advantaged by England generally performing so badly over that period that he has played many more innings per match than many English players of the past. He's getting over 1.9 innings/match, whereas the likes of Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Compton generally only got 1.5-1.7 innings per Test. Bradman only got 1.4 innings per Test.

The true measure of speed of run acquisition is by the number of innings. In this regard KP is a very creditable 7th on the English list, with 63 innings. Here's the list:
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H Sutcliffe 52
DCS Compton 57
JB Hobbs 60
WR Hammond 61
L Hutton 61
KF Barrington 61
KP Pietersen 63
ER Dexter 64
JH Edrich 67

Unfortunately for Aiden it puts him well behind Viv Richards (54 innings), not to mention contemporaries like Lara (52 innings) and Sehwag (55). Other current players around the mark include Hayden (61 innings), and Gilchrist and G Smith, both 63 like KP.
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Good point, 3hard. The statistics are prone to mislead at times and this is a particularly sneaky one. One interesting thing about Pietersen getting so many innings is that batting down the order at 4 or 5 he's still doing so much batting. Bradman at 3 didn't but then he usually scored such a big hundred in the first innings that the second wasn't necessary. Having said that, with test scoring rates up I suspect most sides are batting twice more than they did, except against England in the last year or so, anyway.
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As an England fan perhaps I would say this but English wickets (and weather conditions) tend to offer some of the best balanced tests in terms of the contest between bat and ball. It's rare to get a flat track bore draw and all of the recent draws I can recall were rain affected at least to an extent.
Wouldn't necessarily disagree with that, but I'd still contend that pitches are getting flatter, and the cause is the desire to maximise revenue.
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Wouldn't necessarily disagree with that, but I'd still contend that pitches are getting flatter, and the cause is the desire to maximise revenue.
Oh I agree but the English wickets still have enough in them to make for balanced games and I'd rather see a balanced game go to the 5th day than an unbalanced one finish early.
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Well the Test matches have come to an end for 2007

Leading Wicket Takers

1. Murali 49 wickets at 22.30 (8 matches)
2. Kumble 49 wickets at 29.40 (10)
3. Steyn 44 wickets at 17.49 (9)
4. Khan 41 wickets at 25.73 (9)
5. Panesar 41 wickets at 32.39 (11)

Leading Run Scorers

1. Kallis 1210 runs at 86.42 (9)
2. Ganguly 1106 runs at 51.44 (10)
3. Pietersen 1007 runs at 50.35 (11)
4. Jayawardene 982 runs at 98.20 (8)
5. Sangakkara 968 runs at 138.28 (7)

ODIs
Leading Run Scorers

1. Hayden 1601 runs at 59.29 (32)
2. Tendulkar 1425 runs at 47.50 (33)
3. Ponting 1424 runs at 79.11 (27)
4. Yuvraj 1287 runs at 45.96 (36)
5. Ganguly 1240 runs at 44.28 (32)

Leading Wicket Takers

1. Vettori 42 wickets at 26.66 (31)
2. Khan 40 wickets at 34.90 (33)
3. McGrath 39 wickets at 18.92 (20)
4. Anderson 39 wickets at 29.61 (28)
5. Fernando 38 wickets at 20.92 (23)

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