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Old 31st May 2010, 22:09   #361
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Bresnan would be the person to make way for Broad at the moment.
Brezzy didn't have a great match at Lords and I would be inclined to agree.
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Old 31st May 2010, 22:22   #362
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Think Bresnan might be vulnerable until he fixes that technical hitch hes developed - but sqquad will surely be unchanged.
My ears pricked up when I heard Flower mention Bresnan 'had a few issues to sort out' in the end-of-day interview yesterday. Not quite sure what he's on about as I have only seen highlights, but the knives are out a bit for Bres, who can look more of a trundler than he really is (as in the Banglas' first dig).

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I suppose there's a bit of an issue with overbowling Finn, him being none too solidly built and all. But he needs bowling, and Test experience, so I can't see them 'resting' him for the second Test. Back-to-back games are the bread and butter of the modern Test calendar, so he will have to get used to it. They could bring in a fifth bowler but, as has been said, there are no obvious options. Shahzad was predictably short of a gallop on Sunday at Headingley, probably because he hasn't bowled for a month. Which shows the flip side of the resting game.
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Old 31st May 2010, 22:40   #363
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Strauss could have turned to KP for a few, and more for Trott. Also don't forget that Swann bowled a lot fewer overs than he normally would, presumably because he wasn't taking wickets: but normally a spinner would have been made more use of to give the seamers a break.

Anyway I saw Strauss, sitting next to Finn, saying that they expect plenty of pace and bounce at Old Trafford which would suit him, so although the selectors have still to meet, I would think this was a pretty big clue that he will be playing.
Can't imagine they'll drop Finn, no.

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My suggestion was tongue in cheek but I would prefer Broad to play than any number of other options, including Bresnan and the 6th batsman. I wouldn't have rested Broad for this series myself, although I do accept a lot of gbg's analysis on the matter.
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Old 31st May 2010, 23:02   #364
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Can't imagine they'll drop Finn, no.

My suggestion was tongue in cheek but I would prefer Broad to play than any number of other options, including Bresnan and the 6th batsman. I wouldn't have rested Broad for this series myself, although I do accept a lot of gbg's analysis on the matter.
"Rested" was what gbg meant when saying he shouldn't play at OT. Not "dropped".

Broad is also still young and has been playing in every cricket format, apart from the IPL, and then there are those strengthening exercises he is supposed to be doing.
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Old 31st May 2010, 23:26   #365
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Finn has bowled 182.1 overs in 5 matches game for Middlesex this summer, which is an average of 36 a game. In this game he bowled 49.

In comparison Anderson who made his debut in 2003 and is another skinny lad bowled just 64 overs in 2 tests against Zimbabwe in 2003. England though were playing 4 bowlers and McGrath.
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Old 31st May 2010, 23:28   #366
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"Rested" was what gbg meant when saying he shouldn't play at OT. Not "dropped".

Broad is also still young and has been playing in every cricket format, apart from the IPL, and then there are those strengthening exercises he is supposed to be doing.
I imagine he'll be hitting the gym and lifting some tin (although I doubt they'll achieve anything dramatic in a few weeks).

'Strengthening exercises' makes it sound like he's working on his pelvic floor ffs.
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Old 1st June 2010, 00:03   #367
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If Finn is selected in the team for the OT test ...
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I guess the issue the selectors have is that no-one is really pushing for selection at the moment. Broad is not an option as he is being rested. Onions is injured. Harmison has been ditched. Sidebottom has taken 1 wicket in 27 overs. Shazhad 2 wickets and a handy 38*. Mahmood wicketless in this game.
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I would have thought that Swann would get more out of the Old Trafford pitch than he did here at Lord's so can bowl plenty of overs ... Finn ... I reckon he needs to keep bowling at the moment.
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"Rested" was what gbg meant when saying he shouldn't play at OT. Not "dropped" ...
Strictly speaking, the distinction between dropped and rested is disallowed. If you play in one England match, and then, in the next, England could pick you to play but they don't, then you have, ipso facto, been dropped. The rest is verbiage. For all that -- as others have mentioned -- there might be hypothetical reasons for playing some other bowler instead of Finn, the idea is too ridiculous, as everybody knows he has just been man of the match at Lord's. Playing some shady future-tactical game (of the type proposed) would only be practically possible by, for example, telling the public that one of the times Finn fell over, he hurt his ickle hand. ... Independently of fishy business, we could add a second spinner to the squad, in case of weather this week.
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Old 1st June 2010, 10:02   #368
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I'm going to talk about this on the Selection Panel thread.
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The ECB have withdrawn KP from a Q&A session to be held at the Rosebowl the night before the Aussie ODI. Thats taking control a little far.
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Old 18th June 2010, 12:47   #370
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very tiring saying ''look'' every fifteen seconds.
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Old 18th June 2010, 12:49   #371
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The ECB have withdrawn KP from a Q&A session to be held at the Rosebowl the night before the Aussie ODI. Thats taking control a little far.
Seems reasonable to me, just think of all the travel involved.
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Seems reasonable to me, just think of all the travel involved.



On second thoughts, perhaps I should withdraw my bravo, because KP will have travelled there with England for an ODI, something he is used to doing.

And perhaps the ECB think there will be too many questions about KP's concerns about the location of the Rosebowl and which club he is thinking of moving to, etc. etc.
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He will be there with England, but it's a hell of a poke from the hotel down to the Rose Bowl.
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Seems reasonable to me, just think of all the travel involved.
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Old 23rd September 2010, 15:38   #375
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2010 Contracts:

England central contracts:
Strauss, Anderson, Bell, Broad, Collingwood, Cook, Finn, Pietersen, Prior, Swann, Trott.

Incremental contracts:
Ravi Bopara (Essex), Bresnan, Morgan, Luke Wright (Sussex), Michael Yardy (Sussex).
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Chris Tremlett has been awarded an incremental contract. He has played enough matches on the Ashes tour to warrant this and Geoff Miller says England are very proud of his performance in helping to win the Ashes.
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Chris Tremlett has been awarded an incremental contract. He has played enough matches on the Ashes tour to warrant this and Geoff Miller says England are very proud of his performance in helping to win the Ashes.
Were they proud of him on Sunday?
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Keeping an eye on how the players have been doing since 1st October last year

Cook 1101 runs at 122.33
Bell 541 runs at 90.16
Trott 708 runs at 88.50
Prior 382 runs at 54.57
Pietersen 437 runs at 48.55
Morgan 97 runs at 48.50
Strauss 331 runs at 33.10

Morgan hasn't got a central contract. Unless they give out an extra one I think he will have to wait another year. Strauss would like to improve on those figures before the end of the summer. 14 centuries between the batsmen. 3 double centuries.

Bresnan 11 wickets at 19.54 econ 2.60 s/r 45.0
Tremlett 25 wickets at 25.36 econ 3.21 s/r 47.4
Anderson 27 wickets at 25.59 econ 2.86 s/r 53.5
Swann 25 wickets at 32.44 econ 2.74 s/r 70.9
Finn 18 wickets at 33.50 econ 4.05 s/r 49.5
Broad 8 wickets at 56.12 econ 2.96 s/r 113.6

Onions looks to have to wait another year to get his contract back. Bresnan might even get one before him. Only 11 players were given central contracts last year and I wonder if they might do 12 this year for either Tremlett or Bresnan. Bresnan plays in all forms of the game.

How many Tests before getting a central contract

Anderson 0 Tests - ODIs 23 wickets at 26.00 (03)
Pietersen 1 - 121 runs at 121.00 (05) conract on ODI form 21 ODIs at 87.33
Strauss 7 - 590 runs at 45.38 (04)
Bell 8 - 468 runs at 42.54 (05)
Finn 8 - 32 wickets at 23.21 (10)
Cook 9 - 761 runs at 54.35 (06)
Swann 12 - 48 wickets at 30.39 (09)
Trott 13 - 1155 runs at 55.00 (10)
Broad 22 - 64 wickets at 35.78 (09)
Prior 23 - 1326 runs at 44.20 (09)

Broad had to wait a while as Harmison and Hoggard still had contracts in 08 and Sidebottom was the new bowler to receive one that year. In 09 Hoggard lost his to Broad.
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Did Anderson get a central contract on the back of his ODI performances in the World Cup?
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