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Old 14th June 2016, 14:08   #1
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Hales 7 - three 50s but frustratingly no centuries. Showed a willingness to learn and fight for his place.
Cook 5 - improved as the series went on. Docked a point for his self-inflicted injury.
Compton 1 - his biggest achievement was in denying his captain a 50 in the chase at CleS.
Root 4 - quiet series, he's allowed the.
Vince 2 - not justified his selection yet
Bairstow 10 (batsman), 4 (keeper) - changed two matches with the bat but still not up to the task with the gloves
Ali 6 (batsman), 2 (bowling) - liked the move up to 7 but continues to regress as a bowler.
Woakes 7 - a successful return to the side ups the competition for places once Stokes returns.
Broad 6 - felt a little like he was going through the motions.
Finn 5 - looked rusty but signs of improvement towards the end.
Anderson 10 - a master at his craft, joy to watch him bowl unless you are a Sri Lankan batsman in England in May.
Stokes - not rated.
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Old 14th June 2016, 15:15   #2
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Hales 7 Hopefully a sign of things to come
Cook 7 Grew as series went on
Compton 2 Not good enough
Root 4 Hopefully just a blip
Vince 2 Not good enough
Bairstow 9 Great with the bat, not so with the gloves
Ali 6 Classy hundred but nothing with the ball
Woakes 7 An able replacement for Stokes
Broad 7 Consistant
Finn 5 No rythem but still took wickets
Anderson 9 Sublime as ever
Stokes 3 Should come back into the side at seven

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Old 14th June 2016, 15:28   #3
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Hales 8 Needs to change 80s into 100s
Cook 7
Compton 1 - done
Root 2 - his worst series
Vince 1 - not convincing
Bairstow 9 bat, 4 gloves
Ali 7 bat (one innings wonder), 1 with ball - going backwards fast
Woakes 7
Broad 7
Finn 5
Anderson 10
Stokes 2
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Old 14th June 2016, 16:06   #4
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Hales 7
Cook 6
Compton 2
Root 3
Vince 2
Bairstow 8 (combined for bat and gloves)
Ali 6 (combined)
Woakes 7
Broad 7
Finn 5
Anderson 9
Stokes 3.
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Old 14th June 2016, 17:39   #5
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Hales 8. The guy's improving, dammit.
Cook 5. Distracted by a personal milestone and captaincy is unimpressive.
Compton 1. Cheerio Nick. We'll call you (probably not actually).
Root 4. Batting lapse but some fine slip catching.
Vince 2. Would be unlucky to be dropped at this stage but...
Bairstow 9. Batting excellent (and attractive). Some keeping lapses but caught 19
Ali 6. What does England want of him? Arguably underbowled.
Woakes 8. Went up a gear or two.
Broad 8. Rather in the shade of JA but still did his job. Could score more.
Finn 5.
Anderson 9. Master craftsman exploiting ideal conditions.
Stokes 2.
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Old 14th June 2016, 17:53   #6
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Hales: 7 - a couple of good scores and has done enough to open for the first 2 tests in the next series

Cook: 5 - not many runs in this series

Compton: 2 - number of runs per innings has been going down since his recall. I would not select him for the next series

Root: 4 - hopefully just a bad series, but he's allowed that

Vince: 2 - not a brilliant start to his career, especially on a batsman wicket at Lords. I would allow a further 2 tests in the next series to see how he plays, but needs a run of form likes Hales has done in this series.

Bairstow: 8 - excellent batting but let down by his wicket keeping

Ali: 2 - bowling is getting worse and not justifying his place in the squad, but is there a spinner who can challenge his place. Maybe, but they are not the next Swann - problems for spin for England before the winter tours in Bangladesh and India!

Woakes: 8 - I like Woakes and feels he is always unlucky. He deserves to be retained for the next series.

Finn: 4 - He really does struggle at international level, especially at Lords, his home ground! I look at Finn as the future Board and Anderson when they retire in years to come, but no evidence of that yet! He needs dropping again to teach him a lesson!

Anderson: 8 - Excellent bowling in excellent bowling conditions, but wasn't great on a batsman wicket at Lords. Anderson's weakness is bowling on bating wickets

Stokes: Let's hope he is fit for the next series!
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Old 14th June 2016, 17:55   #7
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Hales: 7 - a couple of good scores and has done enough to open for the first 2 tests in the next series

Cook: 5 - not many runs in this series

Compton: 2 - number of runs per innings has been going down since his recall. I would not select him for the next series

Root: 4 - hopefully just a bad series, but he's allowed that

Vince: 2 - not a brilliant start to his career, especially on a batsman wicket at Lords. I would allow a further 2 tests in the next series to see how he plays, but needs a run of form likes Hales has done in this series.

Bairstow: 8 - excellent batting but let down by his wicket keeping

Ali: 2 - bowling is getting worse and not justifying his place in the squad, but is there a spinner who can challenge his place. Maybe, but they are not the next Swann - problems for spin for England before the winter tours in Bangladesh and India!

Woakes: 8 - I like Woakes and feels he is always unlucky. He deserves to be retained for the next series.

Finn: 4 - He really does struggle at international level, especially at Lords, his home ground! I look at Finn as the future Board and Anderson when they retire in years to come, but no evidence of that yet! He needs dropping again to teach him a lesson!

Anderson: 8 - Excellent bowling in excellent bowling conditions, but wasn't great on a batsman wicket at Lords. Anderson's weakness is bowling on bating wickets

Stokes: Let's hope he is fit for the next series!
Where's Broad - is this a D/L sockpuppet account?
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Old 14th June 2016, 19:27   #8
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Moeen did the vast majority of his bowling in one innings. Let's judge everything on his 1 for 136 and decide if he is a test cricketer based on that. Good idea.

Someone tell herath he can give back his 300 test wickets because he got 1 for 134 on the same pitch.

Other than that mo was hardly needed.

Moeen set up the Durham win with a fantastic innings.

Someone gave him a 2. lol.
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Old 15th June 2016, 09:04   #9
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Cook 6 - perhaps the 10k mark weighed too much on his mind, but put in 3 pretty handy scores at the end although perhaps a bit too slow when target setting last up. Captaincy pretty much his usual level

Hales 8 - leaning towards 8 over 7, mainly for applying himself even though he couldn't convert any of his three fifties.

Compton 2 - initially in South Africa his recall looked like it may have been vindicated, but one fifty in his last 10 Tests doesn't exactly bode well and he never got properly 'in' this series.

Root 4 - being a bit kind for his 80, could as easily have given him a 2 for batting, but also grabbed 6 catches so could argue a 5.

Vince 2 - could cut him slack for being less experienced than Compton, and did at least venture as high as 35, but suspect his lack of Tests is all that might see him into the next squad (and then probably dropped one Test in)

Bairstow 9 - could easily give him a 10, top scorer, two hundreds, missed a few chances with the gloves but still took 19 catches. I'm only deducting that point and not changing it for his keeping, be 10/10 for batting alone.

Ali 6 - toughie. Scored the one hundred, didn't do a lot else. The hundred was important, but it's like when do you take the mean average over median or mode........? (when it looks like you should) So I'm splitting the difference, although to be honest unlike SVAG I'm not sure I care too much (here anyway)

Woakes 8 - tempted to give him a 9, did a job with bat, did a good job with the ball.

Finn 6 - didn't do much wrong, may well be left out next match because Stokes will come back in and Woakes made a bigger impression.

Broad 7 - took more wickets than Finn at a few runs cheaper apiece, but bowled more. Think some of the 5s given Finn are a tad harsh.

Anderson 9 - took 21 wickets in a 3 Test series, although the Sri Lankans hit the series cold (in more than one way) he made light work of them and plenty of bowlers would take 21 wickets in series of 4-5 Tests length


Stokes n/a - didn't do much right or wrong, if I had to give him a score it would be a 5 or 6.


I'd say on Ali his bowling isn't frontline as I've said most of the while he's played, and if you were rating his 155no you'd give it a 9 or 10, the rest of his efforts probably a 2-3
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Apologies, forgot about Board.

Board: 7 - same problem as Anderson. Great in good bowling conditions. Shocking in non-bowling conditions.
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Apologies, forgot about Board.

Board: 7 - same problem as Anderson. Great in good bowling conditions. Shocking in non-bowling conditions.
Slight hyperbole here.
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Cook 7 - One excellent innings, 222 runs, captained well in first two tests, though poor in 3rd
Hales 7 - grafted well throughout, secured his place for the summer
Compton 3 - very poor, a car crash of a series
Root 5 - due a dud series
Vince 4 - poor, but needs to be given the summer, I'd back him in the long term over many other names being floated about
Bairstow 10 - don't get why people are taking points off him for his keeping. Maybe all rounders should be marked out of 20.
Woakes 7 - good, albeit in an uncompetitive match, should make way for Stokes
Ali 6 - helped save the day a few times with the bat, didn't cut it with the ball at all
Broad 8 - generally high standard bowling throughout, his batting has gone backwards
Finn 7 - an average of 28.14 is pretty respectable, performed better than critics would have you believe
Anderson 10 - superlative, totally deserving his status as number one bowler in the world
Stokes 7 - took a decent wicket, he'll be back.
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Far too generous marks for Bairstow, who is rapidly climbing that list of dropped catches that kys updates. How many was it in the series? 4 including the stumping? That's him fluffing every 5th-6th chance. Not good enough.
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Bairstow 10 - don't get why people are taking points off him for his keeping.
Could be because it's a significant part of the role of a wicketkeeper.
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Could be because it's a significant part of the role of a wicketkeeper.
Then maybe he should be marked out of 20, since he's expected to fulfil two roles in the team.
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Then maybe he should be marked out of 20, since he's expected to fulfil two roles in the team.
Mark Stokes out of 30 as he's batting, bowling and fielding? You're being a bit silly here, cb, I'm afraid.
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Mark Stokes out of 30 as he's batting, bowling and fielding? You're being a bit silly here, cb, I'm afraid.
I don't disagree in the slightest, it's one hundred percent silly.

But deducting points off a superlative batting performance just can't be right.
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I don't disagree in the slightest, it's one hundred percent silly.

But deducting points off a superlative batting performance just can't be right.
I do see the point that were he playing as a specialist batsman he'd have been worth more points but he does keep and he did keep badly.
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I do see the point that were he playing as a specialist batsman he'd have been worth more points but he does keep and he did keep badly.
But without his specialist batting, England arguably could have been floundering.

He was man of the series, he has to be given proper recognition somehow.
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But without his specialist batting, England arguably could have been floundering.

He was man of the series, he has to be given proper recognition somehow.
I don't think anyone would expect "proper recognition" to come in the form of numbers typed in this thread, though. So I think we should probably leave the "proper recognition" thing to others elsewhere. You say he was man of the series?
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