Cricket 24/7  

Welcome to the Cricket 24/7.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. There are also more forums available to members, such as the Lounge - where members chat about just about anything under the sun except cricket!

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.


Go Back   Cricket 24/7 > Cricket Discussion Forums > England
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar Casino Articles Terms of Use Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 23rd August 2009, 13:10   #281
luckyluke
Established International
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 3,488
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatslogger View Post
Amusing but in fairness, the blokes didn't select themselves. If some imbecile came up to you and offered you an England place, would you turn it down?
From now on Steve Harmison definitely should.
__________________
Most heartless decision:

In a women's league match in Denmark, a heavily pregnant woman arrived at the crease, and asked for a runner. Her request was denied, on the grounds that her incapacity had not occured during the course of the match.
luckyluke is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd August 2009, 14:09   #282
Ali TT
Posting God
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 19,627
2003 was a bottoming out year in the mid-Fletcher era. 2000-2002 had been relatively successful with wins over WI, SL (2), Pak, Zim, but the wheels came off in the 2002/3 Ashes. It was the end of one generation- with Stewart, Gough and Caddick all playing their final tests that year, the end of Hussain as captain. Other than Vaughan and Trescothick, the nucleus of the team that was to lead us to our success the following year hadn't really settled in or had not even been selected. Performances were ragged- especially those first two tests against the South Africans. It is no suprise to me that that year of all the ones under Fletcher had so many debutants. 2006 would be a similar case of changing of the guard, although this time it was less successful in the long run.
Ali TT is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 21st September 2009, 01:06   #283
1000yardstare
Posting Goddess
 
1000yardstare's Avatar
JA 852 Cummins 149 Wagner 147 TCurran 21 SCurran 16
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: London
Posts: 21,167
2009

Tests
642 - Khan
643 - Bresnan
644 - Onions
645 - Trott

ODIs
208 - Morgan
209 - Denly
210 - Rashid
211 - Trott
212 - Onions - shirt number 90
1000yardstare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st September 2009, 08:03   #284
Minor Maggie
Buttleresque
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Leeds
Team(s): Lancashire, England
Posts: 26,758
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1000yardstare View Post
2009

Tests
642 - Khan
643 - Bresnan
644 - Onions
645 - Trott

ODIs
208 - Morgan
209 - Denly
210 - Rashid
211 - Trott
212 - Onions - shirt number 90
Well he wasn't going to get his favourite number 9 shirt off Jimmy now was he??
Minor Maggie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th January 2010, 17:36   #285
1000yardstare
Posting Goddess
 
1000yardstare's Avatar
JA 852 Cummins 149 Wagner 147 TCurran 21 SCurran 16
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: London
Posts: 21,167
2009 Debuts

Tests
642 - Khan
643 - Bresnan
644 - Onions
645 - Trott

ODIs
208 - Morgan
209 - Denly
210 - Rashid
211 - Trott
212 - Onions
213 - SDavies

20/20s
40 - Batty
41 - SDavies
42 - Khan
43 - Foster
44 - Key
45 - Morgan
46 - Rashid
47 - Denly
1000yardstare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th January 2010, 18:38   #286
Zebroston Chase
Not Lara or Chanderpaul but the best you've got
 
Zebroston Chase's Avatar
When Hope is gone, I will appear.
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Glasgow
Team(s): AFC Hornchurch, Essex, England
Age: 34
Posts: 18,509
Amjad bloody Khan...
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by High Druid Nathan Barley View Post
I'm fully aware of his thinking, which merely underlines the point that he's an idiot.
Zebroston Chase is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th January 2010, 23:37   #287
Rey
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Castleford
Team(s): Yorkshire
Posts: 14,312
2009 - the year we recalled Gareth Batty. That's how I'll remember it, anyway
__________________
"He has sat on the fence so long that the iron has entered his soul."
Rey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th January 2010, 23:44   #288
Psyduck
Posting God
 
Psyduck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Manchester
Team(s): England, Lancashire, Man Utd
Posts: 16,368
646 = Michael Carberry surely?

Rey - did Batty play in 2009?
Psyduck is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 21st January 2010, 11:37   #289
Josh
International Material
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,692
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyduck View Post
646 = Michael Carberry surely?

Rey - did Batty play in 2009?
One-dayers in the West Indies. Thanks for reminding me.
Josh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st January 2010, 12:07   #290
sharky
Posting God
 
sharky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sunny Sussex
Team(s): Sussex, England
Posts: 10,944
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyduck View Post
646 = Michael Carberry surely?

Rey - did Batty play in 2009?
I'd have thought that Carberry is nailed on. He may join Rikki Clarke in having a career of two Tests against Bangladesh.
__________________
She was like a candle in the wind...Unreliable
sharky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st January 2010, 13:55   #291
DoStopItAggers
County Pro
 
DoStopItAggers's Avatar
Black Dog Stopping Play!
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 899
Wouldn't be 100% sure about that - a good tour could lead him into contention for the No 3 spot, especially if Trott goes on another bad, er, trot.
__________________
Members feel free to check out my "Black Dog Stopped Play" blog!!!
DoStopItAggers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd January 2010, 00:05   #292
cabinboy
Posting God
 
cabinboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 13,717
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyduck View Post
646 = Michael Carberry surely?
Could still be Wright.
cabinboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd January 2010, 01:05   #293
geoff_boycotts_grandmother
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 28,379
Quote:
Originally Posted by cabinboy View Post
Could still be Wright.
Or Shazhad.

Or Tredwell.

Or even Davies.

Come to think of it, are we guaranteed a debutant? I suppose Plunkett and Onions could come in for Strauss and Anderson, with everyone shifting up 1 and Plunkett slotting in at number 8.

I think England will go in with 5 bowlers for this one.
geoff_boycotts_grandmother is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd January 2010, 01:14   #294
cabinboy
Posting God
 
cabinboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 13,717
Quote:
Originally Posted by geoff_boycotts_grandmother View Post
Or Shazhad.

Or Tredwell.

Or even Davies.

Come to think of it, are we guaranteed a debutant? I suppose Plunkett and Onions could come in for Strauss and Anderson, with everyone shifting up 1 and Plunkett slotting in at number 8.

I think England will go in with 5 bowlers for this one.
I think they might as well, that's why I'd put my dirty filfthy money on Wright rather than Carberry.
cabinboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd January 2010, 21:33   #295
Fatslogger
Self Confessed Mentalist
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Hitchin
Team(s): England and Liverpool
Age: 42
Posts: 43,699
Quote:
Originally Posted by geoff_boycotts_grandmother View Post
Or Shazhad.

Or Tredwell.

Or even Davies.

Come to think of it, are we guaranteed a debutant? I suppose Plunkett and Onions could come in for Strauss and Anderson, with everyone shifting up 1 and Plunkett slotting in at number 8.

I think England will go in with 5 bowlers for this one.
It's an interesting question and I'd certainly expect to see Onions in for Anderson. Whether Plunkett will play ahead of Wright (which would certainly be my preference) or not is harder to say. Carberry could miss out, therefore, although it would be a bit unlucky for him to do so with an opener out. I can't really see Trott being promoted to open. Picking 5 bowlers does then make picking the batting almost impossible though so I suppose he just might be.
__________________
Work is the curse of the drinking classes - Wilde
Fatslogger is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd January 2010, 00:03   #296
sillypoint
World Class
 
sillypoint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 5,478
Quote:
Originally Posted by geoff_boycotts_grandmother View Post
Or Shazhad.

Or Tredwell.

Or even Davies.

Come to think of it, are we guaranteed a debutant? I suppose Plunkett and Onions could come in for Strauss and Anderson, with everyone shifting up 1 and Plunkett slotting in at number 8.

I think England will go in with 5 bowlers for this one.
I hope you mean Plunkett slotting in at 9, not 8. It would be a travesty if he was batting above either Broad or Swann.

In any case, I don't see the point in adding another RFM to the three that are already in the team, If you really want to play another bowler, something which I'm very sceptical about anyway, make it a spinner or something else except a RFM.
sillypoint is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd January 2010, 00:18   #297
1000yardstare
Posting Goddess
 
1000yardstare's Avatar
JA 852 Cummins 149 Wagner 147 TCurran 21 SCurran 16
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: London
Posts: 21,167
Quote:
Originally Posted by sillypoint View Post
I hope you mean Plunkett slotting in at 9, not 8. It would be a travesty if he was batting above either Broad or Swann.

In any case, I don't see the point in adding another RFM to the three that are already in the team, If you really want to play another bowler, something which I'm very sceptical about anyway, make it a spinner or something else except a RFM.
I would definitely have Plunkett batting above Broad in the ODIs.
1000yardstare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd January 2010, 11:59   #298
geoff_boycotts_grandmother
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 28,379
Quote:
Originally Posted by sillypoint View Post
I hope you mean Plunkett slotting in at 9, not 8. It would be a travesty if he was batting above either Broad or Swann.
http://www.cricketarchive.co.uk/Arch...y_Average.html

Quote:
In any case, I don't see the point in adding another RFM to the three that are already in the team, If you really want to play another bowler, something which I'm very sceptical about anyway, make it a spinner or something else except a RFM.
Variety is important, but you can have variety in a 4 man RFM attack. Variety is as much to do with height, bounce, trajectory, bowling from wide of the crease, hitting the seam, swinging it conventionally and reversing it, outswinger and inswinger etc as it is to do with whether someone is a left-armer or a spinner. Personally, I'd be looking for someone with a little extra pace and bounce rather than a left-armer.

It's also worth noting that the second spinner in the party is another off-spinner.
geoff_boycotts_grandmother is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd January 2010, 14:06   #299
cabinboy
Posting God
 
cabinboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 13,717
Quote:
Originally Posted by geoff_boycotts_grandmother View Post
http://www.cricketarchive.co.uk/Arch...y_Average.html



Variety is important, but you can have variety in a 4 man RFM attack. Variety is as much to do with height, bounce, trajectory, bowling from wide of the crease, hitting the seam, swinging it conventionally and reversing it, outswinger and inswinger etc as it is to do with whether someone is a left-armer or a spinner. Personally, I'd be looking for someone with a little extra pace and bounce rather than a left-armer.

It's also worth noting that the second spinner in the party is another off-spinner.
That was a pretty dumb bit of selection, hard to see any coherent reason for not continuing with Rashid which would have given Cook a selection option rather than cover.
cabinboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd January 2010, 16:37   #300
Kim
Posting God
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 18,088
Selectors are, apparently, not very impressed with Rashid's ability to learn and feel they have brought him in way too early.
Kim is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 21:59.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Cricket247.org