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Old 17th January 2018, 12:25   #201
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Did those figures flatter him?
No idea; I haven't seen any of it. The pitch got uneven as the match went on though.
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Old 17th January 2018, 13:31   #202
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Good stuff from someone so young. He got a bit of pace, some bounce and managed to seam the ball back into the right handers. Lots to build on and another thumping victory for SA.
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Old 17th January 2018, 13:31   #203
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No idea; I haven't seen any of it. The pitch got uneven as the match went on though.
He bowled quickly, occasionally moved it and troubled batsmen.

Got a few freebies with wafting batsmen, but also in the first dig was unlucky not to get Kohli which would have made it twice for the match. It was a pretty good ball which trapped the Indian skipper in front.

He is very tall and is strongly built. He also fielded well. Think he's a great find for SA.

But for all the good bowling, the hosts probably won it when they dug in during the second innings, especially Faf, while AB looked a class above the rest.

India has bowled well during this series.
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Old 17th January 2018, 13:56   #204
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Seemed to have more than a bit of pace - from what I saw he was the quickest bowler in the match. Looked to be the same kind of easy pace that Rabada has, too; coming from good strength and a pretty smooth, repeatable action.

Didn't see him bowling second innings but, as said, he was really impressive against Kohli first innings.
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Old 17th January 2018, 14:15   #205
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Seemed to have more than a bit of pace - from what I saw he was the quickest bowler in the match. Looked to be the same kind of easy pace that Rabada has, too; coming from good strength and a pretty smooth, repeatable action.

Didn't see him bowling second innings but, as said, he was really impressive against Kohli first innings.
Yes, both Rabada and Ngidi look fluent. Evidently he can still improve in terms of his fitness, but he's only 21. Great effort to be awarded MOTM in your debut match.
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Old 17th January 2018, 17:09   #206
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Congratulations to South Africa, well deserved series victory.

What to say about India, yet another debacle overseas, this was even worse than Cape Town given India basically got a home pitch gifted to them by South Africa. Whilst Kohli's selections continue to confound (and no one dare question him going by his press conference), India's problems run too deep to be explained by bad selection alone.
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Old 17th January 2018, 19:51   #207
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India's problems run too deep to be explained by bad selection alone.
Ya. But a good intelligent selection on the back of proper planning is an excellent place to start. If you end up in a 9 v 11 scenario, things can only get worse from there.
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Old 17th January 2018, 23:49   #208
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So after three years of dominance at home and in the sub-continent, India fall short in their first big challenge overseas. Not surprising, perhaps, given a lack of preparation but disappointing given that a weaker England side won in South Africa not that long ago.

The difficulty of winning away continues.
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Old 18th January 2018, 02:55   #209
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So after three years of dominance at home and in the sub-continent, India fall short in their first big challenge overseas. Not surprising, perhaps, given a lack of preparation but disappointing given that a weaker England side won in South Africa not that long ago.

The difficulty of winning away continues.
SA's attack against England was inferior to this one though.
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SA's attack against England was inferior to this one though.
It was. Like the look of Ngidi a lot and Rabada speaks for himself. In that series Saffers had the likes of Morris and Viljoen who were a long way behind what they have out this series. Although the pitch started out flat for the first couple of days, there was more help for the spinners and both were a tad disappointing and the pitch got quicker after day 2 with more up and bounce. I always thought that SA didn't need a lead much more than 200 and their tall quicks would take advantage of the up and down bounce.

The BCCI 'think tank' who thought it was wise to play all those pointless matches v Sri Lanka at the absence of some hard preparation time in South Africa ought to be taken into a dark room and have seven shades knocked out of them.
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Old 18th January 2018, 13:26   #211
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It was. Like the look of Ngidi a lot and Rabada speaks for himself. In that series Saffers had the likes of Morris and Viljoen who were a long way behind what they have out this series. Although the pitch started out flat for the first couple of days, there was more help for the spinners and both were a tad disappointing and the pitch got quicker after day 2 with more up and bounce. I always thought that SA didn't need a lead much more than 200 and their tall quicks would take advantage of the up and down bounce.

The BCCI 'think tank' who thought it was wise to play all those pointless matches v Sri Lanka at the absence of some hard preparation time in South Africa ought to be taken into a dark room and have seven shades knocked out of them.
I am somewhat absolving BCCI of guilt based on a news report a few days back. It's firmly Ravi Shastri and Kohli's fault. Oh! How I wish we still had Kumble!

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But yes, you are right- 'A half baked warm-up match' wouldn't probably have helped. What I'm saying is- they ended the Sri Lanka series in the first week of December. Send an A-Team to South Africa by the next week that includes your Test specialists (Rahane, Pujara, Vijay, Ashwin, Jadeja, Ishant, Umesh among others) and play 3-4 Two-day and Three-day matches in different parts, preferably against the South Africa A side- I'm sure the BCCI has that much clout to make it happen. I mean, instead of arm twisting nations in ICC meetings, that's where I'd prefer the clout to be utilized.

And I don't think it's about the attack either- it's about getting used to pitch and surrounding conditions- the bounce on offer, what to leave and what not to etc.
Team Management declined BCCI offer to send core players to South Africa early.

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I am somewhat absolving BCCI of guilt based on a news report a few days back. It's firmly Ravi Shastri and Kohli's fault. Oh! How I wish we still had Kumble!
QUOTE=sanskritsimon;777300]nested balloons ... oh what beauty[/quote]

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I think Simon was addressing my multiple quotes. Not quite sure if he was being appreciative or sarcastic though.
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Old 18th January 2018, 19:28   #215
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I think Simon was addressing my multiple quotes. Not quite sure if he was being appreciative or sarcastic though.
The default mode for Sans is definitely sarcastic but on this occasion he seems to have been channelling Captain Haddock for reasons beyond me.
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Congratulations to SA for the convincing series win and to both sides for compelling cricket in both of the matches thus far.
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Old 24th January 2018, 11:23   #217
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India after choosing to bat first, are 2/45 after the first session. Could have been worse because SA has put a few down, including Kohli.
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Swiggy would appear to be the Indian version of Deliveroo.

I'm thinking Pujara's effort today will not be included in the pretty 50's thread.
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Swiggy would appear to be the Indian version of Deliveroo.

I'm thinking Pujara's effort today will not be included in the pretty 50's thread.
I was about to update. I will make mention of it.......
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Swiggy would appear to be the Indian version of Deliveroo.

I'm thinking Pujara's effort today will not be included in the pretty 50's thread.
I found it attractive in its own way. Proper Test Match batting!
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