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Old 10th December 2020, 14:09   #1
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England in India Feb 2021

So it looks like the squad will travel straight on from Sri Lanka to India.

4 Tests starting on Feb 5th. First 2 in Chennai, second 2 in Ahmedabad (the first of which will be a day nighter).

To be followed by 5 T20's and 3 ODI's.

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I wonder if some players will begin to opt out having existed in 'hub' life for almost a year straight by that point. I wouldn't blame them either.
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Old 11th December 2020, 07:56   #3
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I wonder if some players will begin to opt out having existed in 'hub' life for almost a year straight by that point. I wouldn't blame them either.
They depart for Sri Lanka on Jan 2nd and the final ODI is on March 28th. Given the fact the T20's come before the ODI's, I'd be amazed if someone like Root played any limited overs cricket.

It can't be long after that for the next IPL either.
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India have announced their 18 man squad for the first 2 Tests.

Kohli returns as captain, but the notable omissions are Shami and Jadeja who are still injured.

Edit: Also still out is Yadav, so 2 of 3 first choice seamers.

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Are these the first matches at the new mahoosive ground in Ahmedabad? It'll be interesting to see what kind of pitch they produce there.
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Are these the first matches at the new mahoosive ground in Ahmedabad? It'll be interesting to see what kind of pitch they produce there.
First 2 are in Chennai, the last 2 in Ahmedabad (the first of which is a day nighter).
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I have mixed memories of the bus station in Ahmedabad ... It's probably a bit swisher these days.
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Anything less than a 4-0 win would be a humiliation for India.
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Anything less than a 4-0 win would be a humiliation for India.
In this millennium, England has generally put up a good fight while touring India, so it would be a miracle if we can win 4-0.
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In this millennium, England has generally put up a good fight while touring India, so it would be a miracle if we can win 4-0.
I think another factor is how India react to having won the series in Australia in such extraordinary circumstances. From such a high, it's often difficult to replicate straight after. I think having Kohli to come back will help, but there will be question marks over his captaincy too.

India obviously start as huge favourites, but I don't see an improving England side and with the freshness of Stokes and Archer to add going down lightly. Maybe a 3-1 home win.
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I think another factor is how India react to having won the series in Australia in such extraordinary circumstances. From such a high, it's often difficult to replicate straight after. I think having Kohli to come back will help, but there will be question marks over his captaincy too.

India obviously start as huge favourites, but I don't see an improving England side and with the freshness of Stokes and Archer to add going down lightly. Maybe a 3-1 home win.
Very true. Also, the pitches in India are no longer the rank turners they used to be. Getting in will be difficult, but once you do that, getting out will be just as difficult. If the batsmen are willing to apply themselves and bat long, it would be quite an even series. With two test matches happening in the same grounds, I wonder how the pitches would hold up, even if they use adjacent strips.
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In this millennium, England has generally put up a good fight while touring India, so it would be a miracle if we can win 4-0.
I can't make much of a case for England.

2 of Englands best players haven't played for months
2 opening bowlers have a combined age of 72
Englands opening batsmen can't score a run
Our keeper couldn't catch Covid in a Scottish care home
Our spinners serve up pies.
Our captain doesn't even play in the IPL.
Moeen Ali may get picked.

Only ray of light is that India played better without Kohli as captain - and he's back.
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I can't make much of a case for England.

2 of Englands best players haven't played for months
2 opening bowlers have a combined age of 72
Englands opening batsmen can't score a run
Our keeper couldn't catch Covid in a Scottish care home
Our spinners serve up pies.
Our captain doesn't even play in the IPL.
Moeen Ali may get picked.

Only ray of light is that India played better without Kohli as captain - and he's back.
2 of Englands best players haven't played for months - Most of the first-choice Indian team didn't play in Australia and we still won, so it shows how it doesn't matter.
2 opening bowlers have a combined age of 72 - They also have around 1000 wickets, so that means they are vastly experienced.
Englands opening batsmen can't score a run - We'll see how our guys cope against the AB attack.
Our keeper couldn't catch Covid in a Scottish care home - Neither can ours.
Our spinners serve up pies. - We might not have anyone who can spin.
Our captain doesn't even play in the IPL. - How does matter in tests?
Moeen Ali may get picked. - Kohli will be captaining India.
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I can't make much of a case for England.

2 of Englands best players haven't played for months
2 opening bowlers have a combined age of 72
Englands opening batsmen can't score a run
Our keeper couldn't catch Covid in a Scottish care home
Our spinners serve up pies.
Our captain doesn't even play in the IPL.
Moeen Ali may get picked.

Only ray of light is that India played better without Kohli as captain - and he's back.
A case of: predict the worst, hope for the best?
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A case of: predict the worst, hope for the best?
Yeah, just an anticipatory bail.

From England's performance in Sri Lanka, it definitely isn't going to be a 4-0 win for India. In fact, I expect the series to be quite close, but India probably would just nudge ahead.
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I can't make much of a case for England.

2 of Englands best players haven't played for months
2 opening bowlers have a combined age of 72
Englands opening batsmen can't score a run
Our keeper couldn't catch Covid in a Scottish care home
Our spinners serve up pies.
Our captain doesn't even play in the IPL.
Moeen Ali may get picked.

Only ray of light is that India played better without Kohli as captain - and he's back.

Updated :

2 of Englands best players haven't played for months : neither batted well and Stokes's bowling continues to be a side issue.
2 opening bowlers have a combined age of 72 : a big risk as the tests come thick and fast
Englands opening batsmen can't score a run : Sibley had 1 innings. Number 3 is a new risk.
Our keeper couldn't catch Covid in a Scottish care home : Specialist keeper coming in - but can he score runs ?
Our spinners serve up pies - remains high risk - both spinners had spells of being crap.
Our captain doesn't even play in the IPL - this was tongue in cheek
Moeen Ali may get picked - the chances of this is diminishing.

Overall - there is now a chance we could draw the series.
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2 of Englands best players haven't played for months : neither batted well and Stokes's bowling continues to be a side issue.
2 opening bowlers have a combined age of 72 : a big risk as the tests come thick and fast
Englands opening batsmen can't score a run : Sibley had 1 innings. Number 3 is a new risk.
Our keeper couldn't catch Covid in a Scottish care home : Specialist keeper coming in - but can he score runs ?
Our spinners serve up pies - remains high risk - both spinners had spells of being crap.
Our captain doesn't even play in the IPL - this was tongue in cheek
Moeen Ali may get picked - the chances of this is diminishing.

Overall - there is now a chance we could draw the series.
It will be interesting to see who goes at 3 when Crawley and Bairstow become available for the 3rd Test.

Also, very harsh on Buttler who has kept superbly in the last 3 Tests. He will be missed.

Not sure about chances of Moeen playing diminishing, Bess can't afford another day like the dross he served up today.
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Updated :

2 of Englands best players haven't played for months : neither batted well and Stokes's bowling continues to be a side issue.
2 opening bowlers have a combined age of 72 : a big risk as the tests come thick and fast
Englands opening batsmen can't score a run : Sibley had 1 innings. Number 3 is a new risk.
Our keeper couldn't catch Covid in a Scottish care home : Specialist keeper coming in - but can he score runs ?
Our spinners serve up pies - remains high risk - both spinners had spells of being crap.
Our captain doesn't even play in the IPL - this was tongue in cheek
Moeen Ali may get picked - the chances of this is diminishing.

Overall - there is now a chance we could draw the series.
Updated

Stokes bowling has been poor and Jofra injured already.
They won't pick Jimmy and Broad was terrible in the 2nd test.
Openers still a massive issue - Burns likely about to get dropped.
Foakes did ok.
Our spinners are still bang average.
Root still not in the IPL.
Of the last 6 test matches Moeen has played England have won 2 and lost 4. The two wins were against the teams ranked 8th and 10th.

Updated prediction : 3-1 India.
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Test Squad has been announced by England with Wood, Curran and Bairstow all returning home from Sri Lanka (probably explains why they're all playing in the 2nd Test). No Pope either (although he will travel and be added when fit), so Lawrence likely to bat 6 I'd have thought.

Root, Archer, Ali, Anderson, Bess, Broad, Burns, Buttler, Crawley, Foakes, Lawrence, Leach, Sibley, Stokes, Stone, Woakes.

It is also being suggested that Foakes will play the last 2 Tests with Buttler being rested before the limited overs matches.
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Test Squad has been announced by England with Wood, Curran and Bairstow all returning home from Sri Lanka (probably explains why they're all playing in the 2nd Test). No Pope either (although he will travel and be added when fit), so Lawrence likely to bat 6 I'd have thought.

Root, Archer, Ali, Anderson, Bess, Broad, Burns, Buttler, Crawley, Foakes, Lawrence, Leach, Sibley, Stokes, Stone, Woakes.
Harsh on WJB - what if he scores runs in this test too ?
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