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Old 2nd November 2007, 11:54   #1
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Australia's drug policy

Leon's gonna love this one.

I wonder which would have been worse, Asif being found not guilty or being found guilty and copping just a 20 days ban.
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Old 2nd November 2007, 12:01   #2
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Leon's gonna love this one.

I wonder which would have been worse, Asif being found not guilty or being found guilty and copping just a 20 days ban.


Well...... all i will say is if the Aussie board thinks this is the right balance so be it. However it seems to allow a player to offend it four times before any serious punishment is handed out, sooooo...
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Good old aussies, "Cricket Australia is serious about keeping our sport drug free", so let them get caught taking steroids four times before cancelling their contract.
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Old 2nd November 2007, 12:04   #4
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Doesn't make it clear whether this is for recreational drugs or performance enhancing drugs. I would think the former as Cricket Australia is, as far as I know, signed up to WADA.
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Old 2nd November 2007, 12:12   #5
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Doesn't make it clear whether this is for recreational drugs or performance enhancing drugs. I would think the former as Cricket Australia is, as far as I know, signed up to WADA.
I had thought about that but the article didn't specify. WADA has a policy about recreational drugs too in-competition though doesn't it?
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Old 3rd November 2007, 00:54   #7
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You guys have got this a little wrong.

Cricket Australia has an 'anti-doping policy' against performance enhancing drugs. This is (I think an updated version of) the policy under which Shane Warne was banned for 12 months. The current policy gives players a two year ban for a first offence if found guilty, although the player has the opportunity to appeal for a lighter ban. A second offence is a lifetime ban.

Cricket Australia is now the only national cricketing organisation to have an 'ellicit drugs policy' against recreational drugs including marijuana, cocaine and heroin (but not alcohol). First offence is a warning & rehabilitation etc, second offence is a forty-day ban, fine etc…

I'm, not sure if the testing can also take place off-season or not though.
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Old 3rd November 2007, 04:48   #8
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You guys have got this a little wrong.

Cricket Australia has an 'anti-doping policy' against performance enhancing drugs. This is (I think an updated version of) the policy under which Shane Warne was banned for 12 months. The current policy gives players a two year ban for a first offence if found guilty, although the player has the opportunity to appeal for a lighter ban. A second offence is a lifetime ban.

Cricket Australia is now the only national cricketing organisation to have an 'ellicit drugs policy' against recreational drugs including marijuana, cocaine and heroin (but not alcohol). First offence is a warning & rehabilitation etc, second offence is a forty-day ban, fine etc…

I'm, not sure if the testing can also take place off-season or not though.
Well Cricket Australia would definitely be the only cricketing body to have an 'ellicit drugs policy', they may even be the only one to have an 'illicit drugs policy' too.

Actually I heard the CA CEO James Sutherland talking about this policy yesterday and he said that testing could take place at any time, both during the season & also in the off season. He didn't say how many tests they would be conducting though, presumably to keep players on their toes.

Looks like Shane Warne retired at just the right time.

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Looks like Shane Warne retired at just the right time.
Do baked beans count as an 'illicit' drug?
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Do baked beans count as an 'illicit' drug?
Depends on who is intaking the emissions?

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Do baked beans count as an 'illicit' drug?
Only if you snort them.

Actually I should clarify that the Shane Warne comment was just intended as a throwaway remark. I don't mean to insinuate that Warnie has or ever would be deliberately involved with any illicit drugs, other than snorting baked beans.

As for his Mum however...
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I think life bans should be the order of the day for recidivists.
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You guys have got this a little wrong.

Cricket Australia has an 'anti-doping policy' against performance enhancing drugs. This is (I think an updated version of) the policy under which Shane Warne was banned for 12 months. The current policy gives players a two year ban for a first offence if found guilty, although the player has the opportunity to appeal for a lighter ban. A second offence is a lifetime ban.

Cricket Australia is now the only national cricketing organisation to have an 'ellicit drugs policy' against recreational drugs including marijuana, cocaine and heroin (but not alcohol). First offence is a warning & rehabilitation etc, second offence is a forty-day ban, fine etc…

I'm, not sure if the testing can also take place off-season or not though.
If that is the case then fair enough, though I would have thought they could be clearer about it. WADA already has a "ellicit" drugs for testing during competitions so I guess this one is to cover outside competition.

In that situation I'm not sure why a player would get too much a ban for smoking dope, off season, for instance.
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If that is the case then fair enough, though I would have thought they could be clearer about it. WADA already has a "ellicit" drugs for testing during competitions so I guess this one is to cover outside competition.
I think the CA site was a little clearer (??)

PS slop, I thnk you meant to write 'an "ellicit"', but it doesn't really help the sentence make much sense

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In that situation I'm not sure why a player would get too much a ban for smoking dope, off season, for instance.
Currently in Australia highly paid athletes are seen as role models, and as such are discouraged from taking 'socially unacceptable' drugs either on- or off-season. Of course if you want to drink until your brain melts during the off-season, thats just fine.

It'd be interesting to put together a list of most likely to be sprung (particularly for the dreaded weed), but I'm sure that would be potentially libellous.
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I think the CA site was a little clearer (??)

PS slop, I thnk you meant to write 'an "ellicit"', but it doesn't really help the sentence make much sense
An ellicit drugs policy, but you alrady knew that And no, the statment wasn't that clear that that didn't include steroids or even how it differs from policies already in place.
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You take drugs you get banned whoever you are or whatever the circumstances .No second chances no anything


If only everyone thought like that. Mind you we would miss all the pathetic excuses that get conjured up.
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Can an employer sack you for taking drugs at home?I agree with the policy.
Marijuana would be the main problem for cricketers.I can't see many being on harder drugs.I believe it was whispered about Slater,that he was on drugs.
The Windies would have a problem with marijuana.It is almost a part of their culture.Lucky for them they will never be tested.Hopefully the policy will put a stop to young players coming through the system being tempted by drugs.
Alcohol is the worst drug,because of the West's drinking culture, as shown by Flintoff.
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Can an employer sack you for taking drugs at home?I agree with the policy.
Marijuana would be the main problem for cricketers.I can't see many being on harder drugs.I believe it was whispered about Slater,that he was on drugs.
The Windies would have a problem with marijuana.It is almost a part of their culture.Lucky for them they will never be tested.Hopefully the policy will put a stop to young players coming through the system being tempted by drugs.
Alcohol is the worst drug,because of the West's drinking culture, as shown by Flintoff.
I dont think an employer can sack you for taking drugs ar home, but if you still have them in detectable levels in your system when you get to work then you are in trouble.

I read Slaters autobiography, and he admitted smoking dope. But my recollection was that he occassion he admitted to was after cricket when he was working as a TV commentator and got sprung, by Mark Nicholas I think...
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It'd be interesting to put together a list of most likely to be sprung (particularly for the dreaded weed), but I'm sure that would be potentially libellous.
It would indeed be interesting but teh potential for libel suits etc would be too great so it is sadly off limits on this board. Sorry.
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An ellicit drugs policy, but you alrady knew that And no, the statment wasn't that clear that that didn't include steroids or even how it differs from policies already in place.
Well it was a little clearer than the link you inititally posted because it points out:
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So it says it compliments CA's anti-doping code, which can be found seperately on the web and points out the two-year bans for a first offence for performance enhancing drugs etc.
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