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Old 9th October 2017, 17:56   #18641
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I think the one thing we can all agree on is that you're a brave man posting this on the Notts thread!
I think he was just hoping to get a bite. He's way out with most of his post but then again, he intended to be. As it happens I was having a look through some of the posts on the Samit Patel thread and he was saying similar things about Read back in 2009. He was just as wrong back then as he is now. But like I say, he intended to be.
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Old 10th October 2017, 08:00   #18642
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I think he was just hoping to get a bite. He's way out with most of his post but then again, he intended to be. As it happens I was having a look through some of the posts on the Samit Patel thread and he was saying similar things about Read back in 2009. He was just as wrong back then as he is now. But like I say, he intended to be.
It's a sussex thing.
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Old 10th October 2017, 17:27   #18643
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It's a sussex thing.
Good point. I'm sure that Sussex by the sea will pop by again sometime too.
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Old 11th October 2017, 16:26   #18644
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Old 12th October 2017, 09:38   #18645
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Old 12th October 2017, 10:27   #18646
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Crikey, we're going to miss him.
"The support for keepers is now greater than it was. However there's still a belief that you choose the batsman first and the keeper second, so a keeper has to be able to bat before they're even looked at for their glovework. Part of me thinks that's a lazy way to think. If you can be bothered to work on the keeping, why can't you be bothered to work at the keeper's batting?"

My sentiments entirely. I've found sadness in the fact that England has had two world-class keepers over the past two decades that have played a combined total of just 22 Tests on the dubious basis that their batting couldn't improve. That kind of thinking 50 years ago would have meant us possibly never seeing Alan Knott in an England sweater.

But, phhh - county cricket is more important anyway and Read deserves to be remembered as a towering figure of his era.
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"The support for keepers is now greater than it was. However there's still a belief that you choose the batsman first and the keeper second, so a keeper has to be able to bat before they're even looked at for their glovework. Part of me thinks that's a lazy way to think. If you can be bothered to work on the keeping, why can't you be bothered to work at the keeper's batting?"

My sentiments entirely. I've found sadness in the fact that England has had two world-class keepers over the past two decades that have played a combined total of just 22 Tests on the dubious basis that their batting couldn't improve. That kind of thinking 50 years ago would have meant us possibly never seeing Alan Knott in an England sweater.

But, phhh - county cricket is more important anyway and Read deserves to be remembered as a towering figure of his era.


Surely Knotty's batting was one of his strong suits. (Remember batting averages were generally lower in the 1960s/early 70s anyway)


I remember at the time Derbyshire fans (& others) lamenting the fact that Bob Taylor would have played far more Tests if only he could bat like Knott.
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Surely Knotty's batting was one of his strong suits. (Remember batting averages were generally lower in the 1960s/early 70s anyway)
It certainly became so. But, his output was pretty unexceptional before getting the England call. If I remember rightly, just three county fifties and no tons. Nothing to suggest he'd go on to achieve the most runs and highest average ever by an England Number 7.
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"The support for keepers is now greater than it was. However there's still a belief that you choose the batsman first and the keeper second, so a keeper has to be able to bat before they're even looked at for their glovework. Part of me thinks that's a lazy way to think. If you can be bothered to work on the keeping, why can't you be bothered to work at the keeper's batting?"

My sentiments entirely. I've found sadness in the fact that England has had two world-class keepers over the past two decades that have played a combined total of just 22 Tests on the dubious basis that their batting couldn't improve. That kind of thinking 50 years ago would have meant us possibly never seeing Alan Knott in an England sweater.

But, phhh - county cricket is more important anyway and Read deserves to be remembered as a towering figure of his era.
You are certainly right about county cricket and from that perspective we've been very lucky as Notts fans for Read's criminal lack of international cricket. I dread to think of the stated we'd have been in without him (we will probably spend the next 10 years finding out!)

And I agree with regards wicket keeping in general. Such a pleasure to watch a genuine keeper ply his trade and I really think cricket will be poorer without it (on the whole going forward, not just without Read). It does feel that more than just Read has left the game for good now.
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