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Old 22nd September 2014, 21:00   #21
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It's a bit of a shame that he was banned now so we can't goad him about Northants' interesting decision to release 4 of their top 5 runscorers this season and 2 of their top 3 wicket-takers in an attempt to avoid being such an embarrassment next season...
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Old 22nd September 2014, 21:16   #22
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It is an interesting tactic. Are there enough players available to fill the gaps?
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Old 22nd September 2014, 22:36   #23
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It is an interesting tactic. Are there enough players available to fill the gaps?
They'll be relying on a few fairly injury-prone players anyway: Willey, Crook, Wakely...
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Old 22nd September 2014, 22:43   #24
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Whilst they've been absolutely horrific this season, these are the players that got them up.

Granted that many are getting on, I'd still have been interested to see how they'd have fared back in division 2, especially supplemented with a fit Willey.

But we don't know - and can only hint in a knowing way, maybe adding in some casual racism and loony conspiracy theories - at what went on behind the scenes. When a team is that bad there's bound to be some fallout and recriminations.
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Old 28th September 2014, 02:02   #25
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Jeetan Patel

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Players by county

Footitt - Derbys - 402 points
Collingwood - Dur - 456
Ryder - Essex - 462
Allenby - Glam - 580
WGidman - Gloucs - 420
Vince - Hants - 411
Stevens - Kent - 620
TSmith - Lancs - 509
GSmith - Leics - 309
Malan - Middx - 418
Middlebrook - N'hants - 339
Patel - Notts - 528
Trego - Som - 518
Roy - Surrey - 385
Wright - Sussex - 432
Patel - Warks - 624
Mitchell - Worcs - 435
Rashid - Yorks - 462

England players for their counties

Cook 76
Robson 134
Ballance 122
Bell 129
Root 52
Ali 196
Buttler 207
Woakes 267
Stokes 366
Jordan 164
Broad 26
Anderson 146

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Old 28th September 2014, 12:56   #26
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107 wickets for Jeetan Patel in all competitions on wickets that are supposedly not spin friendly. Admittedly 48 in limited overs competitions but nevertheless it is still a noteworthy achievement.
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Old 28th September 2014, 15:55   #27
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107 wickets for Jeetan Patel in all competitions on wickets that are supposedly not spin friendly. Admittedly 48 in limited overs competitions but nevertheless it is still a noteworthy achievement.
It is. You expect your overseas player to be the best yet only two counties, Warks and Essex managed that.

How did overseas players do for their counties
(I don't know how accurate this is as I get confused with Kolpaks and EU players so a rough idea)

Derbys - Chanderpaul 84 North 172 Pujara 40
Dur - Hastings 401 Sangakkara 37 Aaron 13
Essex - Ryder 462
Glam - Hogan 425 Sammy 33
Gloucs - Klinger 210
Hants - Abbott 186 Maxwell 97 Tahir 25 Rimmington 12 Shah 39
Kent - Bollinger 267
Lancs - Khawaja 145 Khan 111
Leics - Styris 118 Sarwan 31
Middx - Rogers 336 Christian 114
N'hants - Levi 147 Butler 57 Wagner 52
Notts - Siddle 221 Franklin 114
Som - Petersen 171 Nannes 107
Surrey - Dilshan 180 Peterson 186 Amla 68
Sussex - Magoffin 379 Arafat 178
Warks - Patel 624 Malik 74
Worcs - Ajmal 331 McClenaghan 130 Munro 112
Yorks - Williamson 209 Finch 149

Probably the four best overseas bowlers in cc Hogan 63, Magoffin 72, Ajmal 63, Patel 59
Best batsmen - Rogers 1333, the rest are English players, no others with more than 850 runs
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Old 28th September 2014, 16:00   #28
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How are these stats invented?
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Old 28th September 2014, 19:34   #29
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It is. You expect your overseas player to be the best yet only two counties, Warks and Essex managed that.

How did overseas players do for their counties
(I don't know how accurate this is as I get confused with Kolpaks and EU players so a rough idea)

Derbys - Chanderpaul 84 North 172 Pujara 40
Dur - Hastings 401 Sangakkara 37 Aaron 13
Essex - Ryder 462
Glam - Hogan 425 Sammy 33
Gloucs - Klinger 210
Hants - Abbott 186 Maxwell 97 Tahir 25 Rimmington 12 Shah 39
Kent - Bollinger 267
Lancs - Khawaja 145 Khan 111
Leics - Styris 118 Sarwan 31
Middx - Rogers 336 Christian 114
N'hants - Levi 147 Butler 57 Wagner 52
Notts - Siddle 221 Franklin 114
Som - Petersen 171 Nannes 107
Surrey - Dilshan 180 Peterson 186 Amla 68
Sussex - Magoffin 379 Arafat 178
Warks - Patel 624 Malik 74
Worcs - Ajmal 331 McClenaghan 130 Munro 112
Yorks - Williamson 209 Finch 149

Probably the four best overseas bowlers in cc Hogan 63, Magoffin 72, Ajmal 63, Patel 59
Best batsmen - Rogers 1333, the rest are English players, no others with more than 850 runs
Magoffin's a class act. Surprised he hasn't been in and around the Aussie national team. Mind you, i have no idea how he has done in the Aussie domestic season!
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Old 28th September 2014, 23:28   #30
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How are these stats invented?

Batting:
The basis of the batting points take into acccount runs scored, the rate scored at and the % of the teamís total.
Batting bonus points are achieved for:

Reaching a century
Achieving a benchmark run-rate (varies per tournament, i.e. 1.5 runs per ball in the Twenty20)
Scoring over 30% of a teamís runs


Bowling:
The basis for the bowling points take into account the number of wickets and economy rates
Bowlers achieve higher points for getting out higher order batsmen
Bowling bonus points are achieved for:

Achieving a benchmark economy rate (varies per tournament, i.e. less that 6 runs per over in Twenty20
Taking 5 or more wickets in an innings
Bowling maidens


Fielding:
Points are accumulated for:

Catches
Run outs Ė direct hits
Run outs Ė assists
Stumpings
Bonus for 5 fielding dismissals in an innings

Captaincy:
A captain of a winning side will receive a points bonus

Winning teams:
All members of a winning team receive a points bonus.
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Old 28th September 2014, 23:41   #31
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It is. You expect your overseas player to be the best yet only two counties, Warks and Essex managed that.
How many overseas were actually available for the entire season though?
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Old 30th September 2014, 13:42   #32
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From 2000 Cricket Writers' Club Young Cricketer of the Year

2000 - Paul Franks
2001 - Owais Shah
2002 - Rikki Clarke
2003 - James Anderson
2004 - Ian Bell
2005 - Alastair Cook
2006 - Stuart Broad
2007 - Adil Rashid
2008 - Ravi Bopara
2009 - James Taylor
2010 - Steven Finn
2011 - Johnny Bairstow
2012 - Joe Root
2013 - Ben Stokes
2014 - Alex Lees

Lyth, 27, has been named Championship Player of the Year after scoring 1,489 Championship runs, including six hundreds, at an average of 67.68.

Lees, 21, was named Young Cricketer of the Year after scoring 971 Championship runs at an average of 44.13.
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Old 30th September 2014, 16:48   #33
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Good re Lyth and even better re Lee's.

They're the picks I.would have made.
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Old 30th September 2014, 16:56   #34
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Yes, a "no-brainer", really.
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Old 30th September 2014, 17:11   #35
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From 2000 Cricket Writers' Club Young Cricketer of the Year

2000 - Paul Franks
2001 - Owais Shah
2002 - Rikki Clarke
2003 - James Anderson
2004 - Ian Bell
2005 - Alastair Cook
2006 - Stuart Broad
2007 - Adil Rashid
2008 - Ravi Bopara
2009 - James Taylor
2010 - Steven Finn
2011 - Johnny Bairstow
2012 - Joe Root
2013 - Ben Stokes
2014 - Alex Lees...
Since 2002, this award seems to have been a decent predictor of future success. Let's see if it continues with Lees and it's still not too late for Rashid, Taylor and Finn.
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Since 2002, this award seems to have been a decent predictor of future success. Let's see if it continues with Lees and it's still not too late for Rashid, Taylor and Finn.
All three are involved with England this winter, in fact all of them except the top three of Franks, Shah and Clarke. Franks never had a permanent place in Notts 1st XI, Shah now a 20/20 player for different teams around the globe and Clarke still spoken off by a few, mainly his fan Dobell.
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Old 2nd October 2014, 00:27   #37
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The full list of award winners is as follows:

Reg Hayter Cup for the PCA player of the year
Adam Lyth (Yorkshire)

John Arlott Cup for the PCA young player of the year
Alex Lees (Yorkshire)

ECB special award
David Collier

PCA special merit award, sponsored by Lycamobile
Micky Stewart

NatWest T20 Blast player of the year
Darren Stevens (Kent Spitfires)

Royal London One-Day Cup player of the year
Paul Collingwood (Durham)

Sky Sports sixes award
Luke Wright (Sussex)

England FTI MVP of the summer
James Anderson

FTI team of the year
Adam Lyth (Yorkshire)
Daryl Mitchell (Worcestershire) - Captain
Alex Hales (Nottinghamshire and England)
Joe Root (Yorkshire and England)
Gary Ballance (Yorkshire and England)
Tom Smith (Lancashire)
Darren Stevens (Kent)
Jos Buttler (Lancashire and England)
Jack Brooks (Yorkshire)
Jeetan Patel (Warwickshire)
James Anderson (Lancashire and England)

Waitrose womenís player of the summer
Charlotte Edwards

Investec Test player of the summer
James Anderson
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ECB special award goes to... the ECB! Yay, we're so awesome!!
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I think the PCA should change that to Umpire of the Year which would be voted for by all the county players.
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Little disappointed Footitt didn't make the team of the year but then that is probably rose tinted glasses - i guess he was pretty averge in the limited overs stuff to.

He similarly didn't make the BBC team of the year.
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