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Old 1st October 2015, 15:21   #81
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Although, this past season Div Two did have the World's Number One batsman plus England's record runscorer and record wicket-taker.
And England captain
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Old 1st October 2015, 15:35   #82
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And, of course, England's fifth highest runscorer of all time.
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Old 1st October 2015, 15:50   #83
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And, of course, England's fifth highest runscorer of all time.
And Ravi Bopara
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That's been happening since the start of Two Divisions. Around half of Leics' Championship winning side of 1998 departed to better resourced counties within the decade.
You look at players like Fuller, Will Gidman and Greg Smith though and they're moving to essentially become little more than squad players - I can't recall that being the case in the past?
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You look at players like Fuller, Will Gidman and Greg Smith though and they're moving to essentially become little more than squad players - I can't recall that being the case in the past?
Indeed, that's a good point. The next stage in the formation of The Elite.
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Old 1st October 2015, 18:46   #86
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And Ravi Bopara
and the England wicket keeper - although he wasn't released to play.
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Indeed, that's a good point. The next stage in the formation of The Elite.
Part of the ever-changing nature of county cricket, though.

At least the lower-placed sides are nowadays run professionally and always field players of a decent standard.

I think if we could go back in time people would be shocked by some of the players that Northants and Worcestershire turned to in the inter-war period. It really was the case on occasions that they had to get people just to make up the numbers. The gulf between them and the top sides must have then been absolutely vast.
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James Fuller 3 year contract with Middx.
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I think if we could go back in time people would be shocked by some of the players that Northants and Worcestershire turned to in the inter-war period. It really was the case on occasions that they had to get people just to make up the numbers. The gulf between them and the top sides must have then been absolutely vast.
I doubt you have to go back that far. England selecting their tour manager in 1953 ..... Lancashire advertising in the Times for a captain in the 1960s ..... more recently Adrian Shankar's selection by Worcestershire.
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I doubt you have to go back that far. England selecting their tour manager in 1953 ..... Lancashire advertising in the Times for a captain in the 1960s ..... more recently Adrian Shankar's selection by Worcestershire.
I believe Surrey accidentally appointed a member as captain for the first post-War season when he turned up at the Oval to renew his membership, as he had the same name as the bloke they intended to appoint. I can't remember the full story, but it must be online somewhere.

The two divisions of Championship cricket do increasingly seem to resemble the top two divisions of rugby union and rugby league, with most clubs more or less entrenched in one division or the other, and a handful of clubs repeatedly going up and down.

Of the seven clubs who failed to gain promotion from this year's Division 2, Kent & ?Essex have been there five years, Glamorgan & Gloucestershire ten, Leicestershire twelve; whilst Derbyshire & Northamptonshire have each had just a solitary season in Division 1 over the past ten or more seasons.

They'll be joined next year by Sussex, after five seasons at the higher level, and Worcs, who I think have either been promoted or relegated eight times in the past ten seasons; and I reckon there's a good chance those two will fill the top two places.

Lancs and Surrey return to Division 1 after one and two seasons respectively at the lower level; and apart from Hants, following their narrow escape this year, it seems like all the rest have been fixtures at the higher level for a good few years now.
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wonder if anyone would be tempted by Oliver?

Certainly not cut out for top tier cricket but has proven he can do a job in the second, at the same he could be a handy asset in the limited overs game.
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wonder if anyone would be tempted by Oliver?

Certainly not cut out for top tier cricket but has proven he can do a job in the second, at the same he could be a handy asset in the limited overs game.
Released by Worcestershire?
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Apparently he turned down the offer of a one year contract.
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Apparently he turned down the offer of a one year contract.
Suggests he's minded to return to playing for Shropshire and resuming his career outside professional cricket.
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Suggests he's minded to return to playing for Shropshire and resuming his career outside professional cricket.
He is off to Australia in the winter to play and coach, however, so perhaps he is hoping for a better offer from another county that appreciates his limited over batting more than Worcs.
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He is off to Australia in the winter to play and coach, however, so perhaps he is hoping for a better offer from another county that appreciates his limited over batting more than Worcs.
Reading his Cricinfo profile in full, I reckon you're right:

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Danny Briggs has joined Sussex, which should be an excellent signing.
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Danny Briggs has joined Sussex, which should be an excellent signing.
Not out of contract, though, so wrong thread!

Briggs had another year to go at Hants and is further evidence that contracts are now as meaningless in cricket as they are in football.

Sussex are getting very good at signing players still under contract elsewhere - Hamilton-Brown, Ajmal Shahzad and now Danny Briggs in recent seasons.

On the whole, I think it is to be welcomed. Counties have woken up to the fact that it is counter-productive trying to get your contracted pound of flesh from of a player who wants away and has received a better offer elsewhere.

The last example I can recall was Kent refusing to free Ryan McLaren from the third year of his kolpak contract, which delayed his Test match debut for South Africa by 12 months. It was a disaster for McLaren and an even bigger disaster for Kent who paid a salary and in return unsurprisingly got three-eighths of bugger all from a righteously disgruntled player.
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Read Briggs wasn't a regular at Hampshire so they didn't mind too much letting him go.
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Read Briggs wasn't a regular at Hampshire so they didn't mind too much letting him go.
Well he played 27 games for the first team across the three competitions last season and Hampshire's director of cricket, Giles White,said "Losing Danny is tough." I think it would be harsh to categorise him as a surplus-to-requirements cast-off.

He will need to hit the ground running at Sussex, though. Mushtaq Ahmed made it very difficult for every spinner who followed in his wake. Anyone who tried, including Panesar, soon fell out of favour on the grounds they were 'not as good as Mushy'.
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