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Old 28th June 2017, 10:35   #61
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Score. I didn't think there were any more county matches at T'Oval this season. That's exciting. Might try and head to Beckenham as well especially as I might be working out Bromley/Dartford way.

Was gonna do the Royal London if Essex got though but now I'm too bitter to go. Might do the MCC v Afghan game though.
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Old 28th June 2017, 11:49   #62
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Went to the Glamorgan vs Derbyshire game after work. Very absorbing. At one point it looked as if Glamorgan might bat past Derbyshire, but the hard work they put in in defending against decent bowling never translated into runs. I haven't seen either of the Derbyshire spinners -- Mendis and Quadri -- before, but it seemed to me as if the pink ball was swerving very nicely in the air. Following and doubling Glamorgan's example, with two overs to go Derbyshire apparently opened the batting with two nightwatchmen.
Based on that limited evidence, do you think the pink ball/evening experiment is worth continuing with next year?
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Old 28th June 2017, 12:34   #63
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Based on that limited evidence, do you think the pink ball/evening experiment is worth continuing with next year?
I've enjoyed the last 2 days at Trent Bridge. Day 1 was well attended but I think a lot were put off by the dreadful forecast yesterday of rain never that arrived. I arrived both days about 30 overs in so saw 2/3rds of 2 days whereby a standard Monday to Thursday game I would have seen none. I think whether it carries on next year will be dictated by the success of the test but I'd like to see it become an annual fixture.

I do understand that my opinion would be different if I was retired but that is a good few years away yet.
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Based on that limited evidence, do you think the pink ball/evening experiment is worth continuing with next year?
I suppose it depends on what the experiment is about. I mean, they haven't invented a pink ball just to see if it swerves or not. They've done it so they can play cricket under lights while wearing white clothes. But then the question is: why do they want to do that?

Personally I'd be happy for the "experiment" to continue next year simply because I generally don't have a day off but I usually do have an evening off and I expect that tradition to continue. And I suppose there are others like me; there were definitely a few people there who had gone down after work. So it spreads the possibilities around, and perhaps it makes for a more diverse audience. I would say though that quite a lot of people left at around the time I arrived (I don't think it was because of me), so I think that most of those who went along only went for half the day, either the first or the second half. If that's the pattern then you'd hope the tickets would be cheaper. I don't think there were more people in the crowd than at a normal day game, but probably there were more through the gate.

And yes, I would have been sunk had I not bought and stashed a pasty on the way to work in the morning. For the "experiment" to work I'd say they should have decent evening food available. Also, in this golden age of beer there's really no excuse for only selling overpriced gassy imported or pasteurised beers. People my age will just about put up with that because when we were younger we got used having to drink crap beer or nothing in most places we went. But the yoof of today surely aren't going to go along with that, when there are several micro-breweries run by mates of theirs a stone's throw from the ground.
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I suppose it depends on what the experiment is about. I mean, they haven't invented a pink ball just to see if it swerves or not. They've done it so they can play cricket under lights while wearing white clothes. But then the question is: why do they want to do that?

Personally I'd be happy for the "experiment" to continue next year simply because I generally don't have a day off but I usually do have an evening off and I expect that tradition to continue. And I suppose there are others like me; there were definitely a few people there who had gone down after work. So it spreads the possibilities around, and perhaps it makes for a more diverse audience. I would say though that quite a lot of people left at around the time I arrived (I don't think it was because of me), so I think that most of those who went along only went for half the day, either the first or the second half. If that's the pattern then you'd hope the tickets would be cheaper. I don't think there were more people in the crowd than at a normal day game, but probably there were more through the gate.

And yes, I would have been sunk had I not bought and stashed a pasty on the way to work in the morning. For the "experiment" to work I'd say they should have decent evening food available. Also, in this golden age of beer there's really no excuse for only selling overpriced gassy imported or pasteurised beers. People my age will just about put up with that because when we were younger we got used having to drink crap beer or nothing in most places we went. But the yoof of today surely aren't going to go along with that, when there are several micro-breweries run by mates of theirs a stone's throw from the ground.


Disappointed you had to put up with this but glad you got to see more cricket.
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And yes, I would have been sunk had I not bought and stashed a pasty on the way to work in the morning. For the "experiment" to work I'd say they should have decent evening food available. Also, in this golden age of beer there's really no excuse for only selling overpriced gassy imported or pasteurised beers. People my age will just about put up with that because when we were younger we got used having to drink crap beer or nothing in most places we went. But the yoof of today surely aren't going to go along with that, when there are several micro-breweries run by mates of theirs a stone's throw from the ground.


Totally agree. I would never buy keg/crap beer in the UK.

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They've done it so they can play cricket under lights while wearing white clothes. But then the question is: why do they want to do that?
This is a really good question. They were talking about this during the Yorkshire-Surrey commentary yesterday - basically saying that if they want to play first-class cricket under lights why don't they just play in coloured clothing with a white ball? After all, they were doing it in World Series Cricket back in 1978.
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Totally agree. I would never buy keg/crap beer in the UK.
Much of the micro-brewery output that is increasingly popular is keg beer. There's no reason why it shouldn't be sold at cricket grounds though, but we all know that the ECB likes a centrally negotiated contract with a multi national brewery selling average beer at best for inflated prices.
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... This is a really good question. They were talking about this during the Yorkshire-Surrey commentary yesterday - basically saying that if they want to play first-class cricket under lights why don't they just play in coloured clothing with a white ball? ...
Personally I think there's something to be said for preserving the rule of thumb whereby
coloured clothing and white ball = short-form cricket, and
white clothing and coloured ball = long-form cricket.
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I suppose it depends on what the experiment is about. I mean, they haven't invented a pink ball just to see if it swerves or not. They've done it so they can play cricket under lights while wearing white clothes. But then the question is: why do they want to do that?

Personally I'd be happy for the "experiment" to continue next year simply because I generally don't have a day off but I usually do have an evening off and I expect that tradition to continue. And I suppose there are others like me; there were definitely a few people there who had gone down after work. So it spreads the possibilities around, and perhaps it makes for a more diverse audience. I would say though that quite a lot of people left at around the time I arrived (I don't think it was because of me), so I think that most of those who went along only went for half the day, either the first or the second half. If that's the pattern then you'd hope the tickets would be cheaper. I don't think there were more people in the crowd than at a normal day game, but probably there were more through the gate.

And yes, I would have been sunk had I not bought and stashed a pasty on the way to work in the morning. For the "experiment" to work I'd say they should have decent evening food available. Also, in this golden age of beer there's really no excuse for only selling overpriced gassy imported or pasteurised beers. People my age will just about put up with that because when we were younger we got used having to drink crap beer or nothing in most places we went. But the yoof of today surely aren't going to go along with that, when there are several micro-breweries run by mates of theirs a stone's throw from the ground.
Agreed. I wouldnt have gone if it was a normal day match as i'd have only caught the last hour. So it might not be everyone's cup of tea but it certainly seemed to have attracted a different audience to champo cricket at the Ageas Bowl on Monday; which can only be a good thing.
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I achieved my first pink ball spectating on English soil today. Not much more than half a day's worth, but I was amply rewarded for my gamble with the weather. I've not witnessed a triple century opening stand for 28 years and, while Cook was his usual magnificent county self, the heartiest applause went to Nick Browne. This guy has worked his guts out to come to terms with the first division and, although he started cautiously and a tad scratchily today, he gradually grew in confidence and looked a quality act.

As a spectator, I found the pink ball a little more difficult to see than the dark red cherry. although this might have been partly due to the constant gloom that shrouded the ground. On the other hand, had the pink ball not allowed the floodlights to shine so brightly, I'm not sure I'd have seen that much play today. It felt a bit dirty to leave half way through the middle session but I have to be honest, it made a welcome change to enjoy a leisurely morning instead of having to rush around to make an 11am start. I didn't notice anyone else heading for the exits around this time, nor anyone turning up afresh. I'll be back tomorrow, this time to stay for as long as there's a viable contest..
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Off to the berkshire v wiltshire mc's game at falkland tomorrow. Looking forward to it, really love the minor counties games.
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Had a cracking day watching Berkshire v Wiltshire yesterday. Here's a few thoughts:

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I think that's it for my spectating for the next four weeks. I understand, and support, the strategy of playing the popular T20 programme in the peak months but it nevertheless seems a shame to have only two rounds of the traditional stuff during the school holiday period.

Not that I have any cause to complain. I've had a blistering first half of the season across a number of grounds in almost entirely good weather. I've lost count of the memorable achievements I've been privileged to behold, and have been stunned by the performances of the county at which I'm now a member. If the second half of the season is half as good, I may have to change the '77 in my user name to '17.

I'll be back in action for Essex v West Indies in the first week of August. But now it's time to rest up and file those scorecards.
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I am an Essex fan trapped in deepest, darkest Kent. I noticed that Essex seconds are playing a championship match at the Polo Farm in Canterbury and thought that it would be fun to go along for a day. I have a friend who lives in the city and fancies it too

I took it upon myself to find out the food and drink situation. It appears that you can talk to the guy who does the teas re food. The bar is unlikely to be open and you cannot take alcohol in. There are cold drink machines (water etc) around the ground.

I wondered if this is normal practice for second eleven games. I appreciate that you could take your own food and it isn't a necessity to have a beer - but on a hot day watching cricket with a friend a couple of beers would be most welcome. There aren't any local hostelries that I am aware of

It does seem a bit limiting. I get that there is free entry but I think we may now go and see the West Indies game at St Lawrence ground instead. It doesn't feel as though there is much encouragement to go, I guess

Any thoughts/views/experiences?
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I am an Essex fan trapped in deepest, darkest Kent. I noticed that Essex seconds are playing a championship match at the Polo Farm in Canterbury and thought that it would be fun to go along for a day. I have a friend who lives in the city and fancies it too

I took it upon myself to find out the food and drink situation. It appears that you can talk to the guy who does the teas re food. The bar is unlikely to be open and you cannot take alcohol in. There are cold drink machines (water etc) around the ground.

I wondered if this is normal practice for second eleven games. I appreciate that you could take your own food and it isn't a necessity to have a beer - but on a hot day watching cricket with a friend a couple of beers would be most welcome. There aren't any local hostelries that I am aware of

It does seem a bit limiting. I get that there is free entry but I think we may now go and see the West Indies game at St Lawrence ground instead. It doesn't feel as though there is much encouragement to go, I guess

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First, my brief experiences of 2nd XI matches in recent years regarding facilities:

The Oval: scorecard, bar with alcohol, tea, coffee, light snacks.
Scarborough: scorecard, bar with alcohol, tea, coffee.
Whitgift School: no scorecard, no drink or food sales, but asked in the pavilion where I could get something and was given a free cup of tea from the urn for players!

Looking at Polo Farm, it seems to be a multi-use sports facility for all ages. I imagine therefore they are stating a rule that they don't want people drinking outside the bar area - what I mean is that you don't expect to see people drinking inside a sports centre.

Whether you want to chance taking a coolbag with some drink to sit by the cricket ground... would they object/care or even notice?

Couldn't find any info on whether the "clubhouse" is open every day, or if so what it serves. But someone there must know...

Edit/p.s. I think the broad answer is that there is no "normal practice" for 2nd XI games, as they can be played anywhere from an international venue/county HQ to a local cricket club to a school, or sports centre such as Polo Farm seems to be.
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I think that is a very fair answer!

I asked about the clubhouse/bar being open when I spoke to them. They were pretty certain that it wouldn't be. And it was them who said that no alcohol could be brought into the ground. I wouldn't want to challenge that by taking in a cool bag - I don't think that's right - especially as I have been specifically told that it isn't allowed
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I think that is a very fair answer!

I asked about the clubhouse/bar being open when I spoke to them. They were pretty certain that it wouldn't be. And it was them who said that no alcohol could be brought into the ground. I wouldn't want to challenge that by taking in a cool bag - I don't think that's right - especially as I have been specifically told that it isn't allowed


FYI When the second XI plays at the St Lawrence Ground Canterbury, in my experience you will find the Lime Tree Café open, the Sainsburys local just outside the entrance open, and the pavilion bar open unless the pavilion has been loaned to some outside organisation for training on the day.

To get information directly from the club about specific games, I'd recommend contacting Thomas Brown, their Communications Manager, via Twitter or Facebook - he's very good at replying promptly.
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FYI When the second XI plays at the St Lawrence Ground Canterbury, in my experience you will find the Lime Tree Café open, the Sainsburys local just outside the entrance open, and the pavilion bar open unless the pavilion has been loaned to some outside organisation for training on the day.

To get information directly from the club about specific games, I'd recommend contacting Thomas Brown, their Communications Manager, via Twitter or Facebook - he's very good at replying promptly.

Thanks very much

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Be interested in other people's views.

I am an Essex fan trapped in deepest, darkest Kent. I noticed that Essex seconds are playing a championship match at the Polo Farm in Canterbury and thought that it would be fun to go along for a day. I have a friend who lives in the city and fancies it too

I took it upon myself to find out the food and drink situation. It appears that you can talk to the guy who does the teas re food. The bar is unlikely to be open and you cannot take alcohol in. There are cold drink machines (water etc) around the ground.

I wondered if this is normal practice for second eleven games. I appreciate that you could take your own food and it isn't a necessity to have a beer - but on a hot day watching cricket with a friend a couple of beers would be most welcome. There aren't any local hostelries that I am aware of

It does seem a bit limiting. I get that there is free entry but I think we may now go and see the West Indies game at St Lawrence ground instead. It doesn't feel as though there is much encouragement to go, I guess

Any thoughts/views/experiences?
I've watched a fair bit of second XI cricket in recent years and its just been a case of rock up with whatever you want.
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Err...not quite. I dragged myself away from the televised Test today for a couple of sessions down at Arundel. In such glorious weather, with a pitch more spicy than usual, it would have been grossly negligent not to. The appeal of this trip comes not simply from the exquisite Castle ground, but also the train journey through miles and miles of lovely Sussex countryside, peppered by ornate little railway stations. Improbable as it may seem, Southern Railways, mired in industrial action, managed to get me there and back bang on time.

A very good crowd, as ever, and numerous dogs. After early losses, Van Zyl and Wright repaired the home innings impressively; the scorecard might suggest that batting became much easier but there was a horrible patch at the top end from which the ball sometimes slid through at barely ankle height. That said, there was little margin for error whenever the Leics spinners pitched short, which was often. With the Foxes needing 388 tomorrow with all wickets intact, it might be a rewarding Saturday's spectating for those who make the effort.
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