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Old 12th March 2008, 21:33   #81
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The IPLwill destroy cricket. It is directly competing not just for players with the county season but also the scheduled tours to countries like WI by Srilanka and Aus where players of the stature of Chris Gayle, Shivnarine Chanderpaul and Ramnaresh Sarwan will have to choose between playing for their country or the IPL and with the money beckoning... i doubt if they will chose their nation.

This is just the start.. when more players from England go to this league, then the results will be in front of all of us.

I think all the boards should get together and do something. Or "our" brand of cricket will become second string. We here in Pakistan have lost almost half a reserve team to the IPL already.
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Old 28th March 2008, 13:14   #82
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/7315107.stm

The BBC did a case study last night on R5L
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Old 28th March 2008, 13:28   #83
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Is there a limit to the amount of foreign players in the team at one time? I'm not sure how young Indians are supposed to break into those teams, and therefore the only way they can make a living is with the ICL, which gives them no hope at international level. It could eventually backfire on the BCCI in a few years
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Old 28th March 2008, 13:38   #84
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Is there a limit to the amount of foreign players in the team at one time? I'm not sure how young Indians are supposed to break into those teams, and therefore the only way they can make a living is with the ICL, which gives them no hope at international level. It could eventually backfire on the BCCI in a few years
sharky-that is EXACTLY what everyone;s been saying of late
the BCCI is just making money-as usual, after indians world t20 success, the market there for kiddie cricket is huge
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Is there a limit to the amount of foreign players in the team at one time? I'm not sure how young Indians are supposed to break into those teams, and therefore the only way they can make a living is with the ICL, which gives them no hope at international level. It could eventually backfire on the BCCI in a few years
Yes there is a limit, of around 4 or 5 players if i seem to remember. Younger players are getting in, with a salary cap of 30k US dollars, few of the teams have signed the rising stars of U-19 team.
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Essex chief executive David East: "Twenty20 has been excellent for the English game.

"But the amount we play has to be carefully managed, and I'd like to think we can avoid any breakaway tournament here."


Except for the Twenty20 floodlit cup, obviously. Is that an officially sanctioned ICC competition?
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Essex chief executive David East: "Twenty20 has been excellent for the English game.

"But the amount we play has to be carefully managed, and I'd like to think we can avoid any breakaway tournament here."


Except for the Twenty20 floodlit cup, obviously. Is that an officially sanctioned ICC competition?
Its run by the ECB, with the involvement of all the major counties, so yes its an official ICC competition.
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Not the Floodlit cup, which is just Derbyshire, Sussex, Essex and Glamorgan.
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Not the Floodlit cup, which is just Derbyshire, Sussex, Essex and Glamorgan.
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Not the Floodlit cup, which is just Derbyshire, Sussex, Essex and Glamorgan.
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Old 28th March 2008, 16:26   #91
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I hate the IPL

Can't cricketers just be content with representing their countries? Representing your country surely means more than money - its not like they do bad from their national contracts anyway!

I hate headlines such as: "England cricketers want to play in the Indian Premier League (IPL)"

This is just pure greed - there is no other motivation apart from money, they should be ashamed.
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I hate the IPL

Can't cricketers just be content with representing their countries? Representing your country surely means more than money - its not like they do bad from their national contracts anyway!

I hate headlines such as: "England cricketers want to play in the Indian Premier League (IPL)"

This is just pure greed - there is no other motivation apart from money, they should be ashamed.
The thing is, it doesn't take much for a country to suddenly decide you're surplus to requirements, or get a bad injury. Anybody's first priority should be to provide for the family and this at least puts cricketers in line with other international sportsmen, though still miles behind footballers or American sportsmen. I think the ICC have to create a spot in the calendar to allow all players equal opportunity to play in it, which hopefully will mean getting rid of some of the pointless ODIs
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I hope our boys take them for all they're worth

The ECB wont be able to compete on the level of the IPL .. and thank god ..

England a feeder nation for the first time in history .. it'll do our game good
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I hate the IPL

Can't cricketers just be content with representing their countries? Representing your country surely means more than money - its not like they do bad from their national contracts anyway!

I hate headlines such as: "England cricketers want to play in the Indian Premier League (IPL)"

This is just pure greed - there is no other motivation apart from money, they should be ashamed.
If you could earn vastly more than your usual wage for a short jaunt to India wouldn't you be interested, even if it did impinge a little on your day job? I don't think that the fact that England players play for England either should or would prevent them being interested. Obviously if there's a clear conflict they'd have to make a decision.
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The thing is, it doesn't take much for a country to suddenly decide you're surplus to requirements, or get a bad injury. Anybody's first priority should be to provide for the family and this at least puts cricketers in line with other international sportsmen, though still miles behind footballers or American sportsmen. I think the ICC have to create a spot in the calendar to allow all players equal opportunity to play in it, which hopefully will mean getting rid of some of the pointless ODIs
I think this argument more applies to the ICL league - most ICL players are coming towards the end of the career, or fringe players. You can understand players like Chris Read joining the ICL as the selectors seem to hate him, but not someone like KP with the IPL.
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I think this argument more applies to the ICL league - most ICL players are coming towards the end of the career, or fringe players. You can understand players like Chris Read joining the ICL as the selectors seem to hate him, but not someone like KP with the IPL.
I don't think the selectors hate Chris Read, they just think he's an abject failure. Flintoff, Trescothick and Simon Jones are three examples of players who's careers have stalled in their prime for reasons other than form. If I was a player, I would want to make as much money as I can when my stock is at its highest, for times when it isn't. Hopefully they'll schedule it properly so it doesn't impact on international tours
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but why ban ICL players???
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but why ban ICL players???
because the ICC are puppets of the BCCI and follow what they say. There's nothing wrong with ICl, just that BCCI don't accept it for various of reasons that are not really cricketing reasons, they force this issue onto ICC making it an invalid tournament hence other cricketing boards following suit.
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The Telegraph -

The committee charged with delivering English cricket's response to the Indian Premier League will propose that the counties play two 20-over competitions every summer from 2010 - an idea described as "absolute madness" by one irate insider.

The first would be early season, and would run along the lines of the old Benson & Hedges Cup, featuring the minor counties, the universities, Ireland and Scotland. The other tournament, to be known as the English Premier League, would take place in high summer and consist of 21 teams, in three groups of seven. The 18 first-class counties would be supplemented by national sides from India, Australia and South Africa.
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Two 20/20s, one early season? What a ridiculous idea. What is our weather like early season? It's hard enough having a summer that is rain free. We had some 20/20s that became 10/10s and 5/5s last year and some that were cancelled altogether.
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Not the Floodlit cup, which is just Derbyshire, Sussex, Essex and Glamorgan.
We're in it now as well!
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