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Old 15th March 2018, 16:02   #381
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I sometimes wonder whether Panesar's best fielding position might have been in the slips. Perhaps the best way of a team maximising its fielding potential without change in personnel would be to put the players in the positions that suit them best, rather than just putting the high-status players (i.e., the established batsmen) in the slips where they can stand around chatting all day and the low-status players in other positions where they have to run around and stuff.
I also expect Panesar's best (or at least, least worse) fielding position would be slip, but he'd still be a terrible slip.

England have had plenty of bowlers in the slips - Anderson, Stokes, Swann etc. I think it may still be more of a seniority thing than a batsman/bowler thing.
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Old 15th March 2018, 16:07   #382
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England have had plenty of bowlers in the slips - Anderson, Stokes, Swann etc. I think it may still be more of a seniority thing than a batsman/bowler thing.
The bowlers that have fielder there and you can add Flintoff from recent players tend to be excellent or at least good slip fielders though, the batsman that have fielded there Tresothick and Strauss apart not so much (from recent times at least).
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Old 15th March 2018, 17:29   #383
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England have had a relative dearth of outstanding slip fielders over the years. Stokes is probably the best of the current crop (although he is by no means infallible) but he tends to field at gully or square point. Cook is poor and Root is decent, but no better than that. Vince is a liability obvs. One of the best in recent memory was Jordan, although curiously he didn't field there often except to the spinners.
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Old 15th March 2018, 18:21   #384
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England have had a relative dearth of outstanding slip fielders over the years. Stokes is probably the best of the current crop (although he is by no means infallible) but he tends to field at gully or square point. Cook is poor and Root is decent, but no better than that. Vince is a liability obvs. One of the best in recent memory was Jordan, although curiously he didn't field there often except to the spinners.
Except fielding in NZ.

He had that awesome series when he caught everything through gully.
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England have had a relative dearth of outstanding slip fielders over the years. Stokes is probably the best of the current crop (although he is by no means infallible) but he tends to field at gully or square point. Cook is poor and Root is decent, but no better than that. Vince is a liability obvs. One of the best in recent memory was Jordan, although curiously he didn't field there often except to the spinners.
Stokes and Jordan don't tend to field there as they're exceptional out fielders, I guess they'll both field there more and more as they get older, not that it really matters for the test team in terms of Jordan.

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Except fielding in NZ.

He had that awesome series when he caught everything through gully.
Cook just tends to completely switch off at times, which was sort of excusable as captain and sometimes at the end of the opposition innings, he really needs to up his catching now though.
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Except fielding in NZ.

He had that awesome series when he caught everything through gully.
I vaguely remember that. Didn't he take 5 or 6 in one match, some of them screamers?
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Cook just tends to completely switch off at times, which was sort of excusable as captain and sometimes at the end of the opposition innings, he really needs to up his catching now though.
He was poor to begin with but turned himself into a relatively reliable first slip. However, he has shelled a few dollies since he stepped down as captain.
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Broad dropped twice in this warm-up, by Vince in the gully and Malan at 3rd slip.
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Vince drop off Anderson
Vince drop off Broad
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Broad
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Vince drop off Anderson
Vince drop off Broad
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Broad
Stoneman and to a lesser extent Vince were probably thinking about their test careers.
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Vince drop off Anderson
Vince drop off Broad
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Broad
Was Stoneman silly point/short leg?
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Vince drop off Anderson
Vince drop off Broad
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Broad
So, they can't bat and they can't catch. Brilliant.
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Didn’t Malan drop a catch at short leg?
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Didnít Malan drop a catch at short leg?
If it's the one I'm thinking of when there were two short legs, it wasn't actually a missed catch as replays showed it missing the bat.
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