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Old 28th May 2007, 16:17   #181
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Id pick Harmison over Anderson anyday
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Old 28th May 2007, 16:18   #182
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and replace him with who FS? Im really struggling to think of someone to replace him.
That's really why I would retain him at present. If Hoggard returns for Old Trafford though, my only powerful argument for dropping either Plunkett or Obliquearse rather than Harmison would be Harmison's height being a big attribute on a bouncy track.

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I know. Of course, I do have faith in things in some senses but it's not religious faith as much as things I happen to believe without necessarily having all the evidence I need to state something definitively. I suppose I use the term for things I think I might be wrong about.
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Old 28th May 2007, 16:18   #183
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Id pick Harmison over Anderson anyday
Harmison has better potential than Anderson, but he has hardly ever displayed it in the last couple of years, and he has frequently under-performed so badly that it seems hardly worth playing him.
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If Hoggard is fit, a line-up of Plunkett, Sidebottom, Hoggard and Panesar isn't bad at all, even if it lacks some variety.

If Hoggard isn't fit, a line-up of Plunkett, Sidebottom, Anderson and Panesar isn't quite as good, but at least there should be some more balls that the batsmen have to play at.
Both of those line ups are worryingly dependent on swing though. None of the mentioned fast bowlers is without any other weaponry but those are unbalanced attacks. I can't see why Anderson would be a better bet than Harmison with two bowlers in the side already able to swing the ball.
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I can't see why Anderson would be a better bet than Harmison with two bowlers in the side already able to swing the ball.
If Harmison were (a) on his best form, or even something approaching decent form and (b) capable of acting as the senior bowler in an attack, I'd agree with you. But, since we've been referencing faith, I have lost all faith in him as a bowler.
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Old 28th May 2007, 16:24   #186
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Anderson isn't the answer though
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Old 28th May 2007, 16:25   #187
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Anderson isn't the answer though
I'm prepared to wait to see how he does against Sussex this week before conceding that he's not looking good just now.
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Old 28th May 2007, 16:27   #188
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Harmison looked very good in County cricket this season though.
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My pick assumes Broad isn't fit, and that Sajid would be a silly choice.
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Harmison looked very good in County cricket this season though.
I wouldn't use Harmison to measure anyone by. Harmison's problems appear to be in his head if anywhere. I think that if Anderson was in good form at county level he would be able to transfer that to the higher level. The trouble is he has looked lacklustre this season so far.
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My pick assumes Broad isn't fit, and that Sajid would be a silly choice.
I would go for Saj ahead of Anderson on slightly better county form and better bowling skill mix (more full tosses and fewer wide balls).
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I would go for Saj ahead of Anderson on slightly better county form and better bowling skill mix (more full tosses and fewer wide balls).


Jeeez has Anderson really been that bad then.
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Jeeez has Anderson really been that bad then.
I've had you admit that Mahmood is perfectly capable of beating up county batting line ups. Do I need to insist that you do it again?
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It doesn't mean he can do it at International level.
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It doesn't mean he can do it at International level.
That's not really my point. It doesn't but he has actually beaten up international batting line ups on occasion too. He's too erratic and needs time to groove his length and line but he's nowhere near as bad as you make him out to be. He'll almost certainly play more international cricket and he's not unlikely to do well. There's competition for those slots though, particularly in the long run.
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He will only play more International cricket because of the county he plays for. If he played for Northants the selectors wouldn't even consider playing him.
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Thought Harmison just bowled a decent spell. After about 25 overs the ball stopped swinging, Munako and Bravo looked settled in and Harmy bowled with good pace and intelligence. It was an excellent bit of bowling for his wicket, which he'd set up with a slower bouncer the ball before.
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I would go for Saj ahead of Anderson on slightly better county form and better bowling skill mix (more full tosses and fewer wide balls).
I've not counted the full tosses but I think you have been guessing re the wides.

Anderson: 16 tests, 463 overs, 10 wides = 1 wide every 46 overs.
Mahmood: 8 tests, 188 overs, 5 wides = 1 wide every 38 ish overs

I'll give you Saj's better county form at the moment though.
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He will only play more International cricket because of the county he plays for. If he played for Northants the selectors wouldn't even consider playing him.
To which I reply: they went for Monty, not Keedy.
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I've not counted the full tosses but I think you have been guessing re the wides.

Anderson: 16 tests, 463 overs, 10 wides = 1 wide every 46 overs.
Mahmood: 8 tests, 188 overs, 5 wides = 1 wide every 38 ish overs

I'll give you Saj's better county form at the moment though.
I said wide balls, not wides. It may still be *******s, of course but it had a nice symmetry.
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