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Old 23rd May 2007, 12:48   #1
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Schofield Report Findings

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Old 23rd May 2007, 12:56   #2
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I see a faint glimmer of hope that Graveney might be sacked, but the decision is to be left to the ECB. Will they have the bottle?
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Old 23rd May 2007, 13:02   #3
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There is already a thread on this topic with pretty much the same title (a definite article is the only difference). Could a mod merge?
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Old 23rd May 2007, 13:07   #4
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I thought I was posting on a continuation of that thread and we'd moved onto a new page.
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Old 23rd May 2007, 13:07   #5
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A Summary of the Reportss findings:

• Managing director, appointed on 250,000 salary, to be ultimately responsible for every aspect of England team. Lord MacLaurin or Phil Edmonds would be ideal but almost certainly out of reach. Alec Stewart is early favourite.

• Chairman of selectors to be replaced by a national selector who will be with England team at all times, making all selection decisions with coach and director of county cricket at home and coach and captain on tour. David Graveney expected to apply for this full-time position.

• Director of county cricket to be responsible for better relationships with the counties. Would be the man to tell counties when England players can play for them. Geoff Miller, currently a selector, would be a candidate but Bob Willis would be an imaginative choice.

• Coach Peter Moores to retain his selection duties but must be accountable to the managing director.

• Less cricket to be played by international and county players.


Oops, sorry for extra thread.

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Old 23rd May 2007, 13:11   #6
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Director of county cricket to be responsible for better relationships with the counties. Bob Willis would be an imaginative choice.
Willis hates county cricket!
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Old 23rd May 2007, 14:59   #7
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Willis hates county cricket!
I think its the structure he hates more than anything. He talks most animatedly about it as a critic but is of course hamstrung when he's in the comms box.
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Old 23rd May 2007, 15:03   #8
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He also pores scorn on county members regularly - ironic given he got a good benefit for Warwickshire despite hardly ever breaking sweat with us.

The report looks pretty feeble to me. Not much innovative thinking there at all.
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A Summary of the Reportss findings:

Managing director, appointed on 250,000 salary, to be ultimately responsible for every aspect of England team. Lord MacLaurin or Phil Edmonds would be ideal but almost certainly out of reach. Alec Stewart is early favourite.

Chairman of selectors to be replaced by a national selector who will be with England team at all times, making all selection decisions with coach and director of county cricket at home and coach and captain on tour. David Graveney expected to apply for this full-time position.

Director of county cricket to be responsible for better relationships with the counties. Would be the man to tell counties when England players can play for them. Geoff Miller, currently a selector, would be a candidate but Bob Willis would be an imaginative choice.

Coach Peter Moores to retain his selection duties but must be accountable to the managing director.

Less cricket to be played by international and county players.


Oops, sorry for extra thread.

No he really wouldnt be. Surely someone with some people skills would be better. He would be a truely awful choice.
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Right, Ive some strong and forthright views on this subject.

I cannot see the point of separating the Managing Director from the role of National Selector. The MD seems to be a football manager in all but name, except he doesn't pick the team. And that's what we really want, an Alex Ferguson type figure. I suspect that if implemented, that's what would naturally happen with the national selector probably ending up fulfilling the role of chief scout, and doing as he/she is told by the MD. Otherwise there will simply be too many empires, and that's the current problem.

I can see a director of cricket such as Hugh Morris fulfilling the MD role. DG may apply for the selector role but It needs to be somebody younger and more in touch with the games grass roots.
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Old 23rd May 2007, 20:05   #11
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He also pores scorn on county members regularly - ironic given he got a good benefit for Warwickshire despite hardly ever breaking sweat with us.

The report looks pretty feeble to me. Not much innovative thinking there at all.

It could have been done in two sentances:

One man in charge and selects the team; Coach to Coach; select the team and then the captain.
County Cricket to reflect International Cricket, with one FC competition, one 50 over competition and one 20T competition.

As this was a committee doing the report we got a committee answer / non-answer
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I liked the idea of a strong team manager that travelled everywhere with the team and selected the team on tour and dealt with all the media, admin, discipline, etc. The coach would coach and the captain would captain.

I think a team of 3 selectors who went around the country selecting players for the Test, ODI, Under 19, Academy etc would be better than one selector.
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I have to say it will be interesting to see the actual report. From what the Mail has implied there is a little shifting around of deckchairs and no real attempt to realign the power more fairly between counties and country.
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I liked the idea of a strong team manager that travelled everywhere with the team and selected the team on tour and dealt with all the media, admin, discipline, etc. The coach would coach and the captain would captain.

I think a team of 3 selectors who went around the country selecting players for the Test, ODI, Under 19, Academy etc would be better than one selector.
No, Committee = fudge and dilution of responsibility.

One full time (48 hours a week, 5 days a week is plenty to see cricketers play) selector is all that is needed.
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Old 24th May 2007, 02:32   #15
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Old 24th May 2007, 15:46   #16
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Is Kim a Warks fan?
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A Summary of the Reportss findings:

Managing director, appointed on 250,000 salary, to be ultimately responsible for every aspect of England team. Lord MacLaurin or Phil Edmonds would be ideal but almost certainly out of reach. Alec Stewart is early favourite.

but more likely to be David Morgan

Chairman of selectors to be replaced by a national selector who will be with England team at all times, making all selection decisions with coach and director of county cricket at home and coach and captain on tour. David Graveney expected to apply for this full-time position.

and he will get the job

Director of county cricket to be responsible for better relationships with the counties. Would be the man to tell counties when England players can play for them. Geoff Miller, currently a selector, would be a candidate but Bob Willis would be an imaginative choice.

This will never happen. If it does it will be some jobsworth being seen to be doing something, only to be told to get stuffed by the Counties.

Coach Peter Moores to retain his selection duties but must be accountable to the managing director.

Tie his hands up and don't let him have the power DF had basically

Less cricket to be played by international and county players.

Yes thats it. Screw the paying customer because Johnny Treadmiller can't be arsed to play in a chilly breeze in May


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I can't believe they took so long to come up with those findings. So it's really business as usual.
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Old 24th May 2007, 19:15   #19
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Recommendations in full:

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engla...ry/295700.html

Complete management speak. Rubbish!

All immediately endorsed except 14 and 17, the ones that are difficult.

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In an Ashes year we will have 5 Tests and 1 against someone else. Who will come for 1 Test. It would have been better to limit ODIs to 5.
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