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Old 15th March 2018, 17:07   #381
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England have had plenty of bowlers in the slips - Anderson, Stokes, Swann etc. I think it may still be more of a seniority thing than a batsman/bowler thing.
The bowlers that have fielder there and you can add Flintoff from recent players tend to be excellent or at least good slip fielders though, the batsman that have fielded there Tresothick and Strauss apart not so much (from recent times at least).
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England have had a relative dearth of outstanding slip fielders over the years. Stokes is probably the best of the current crop (although he is by no means infallible) but he tends to field at gully or square point. Cook is poor and Root is decent, but no better than that. Vince is a liability obvs. One of the best in recent memory was Jordan, although curiously he didn't field there often except to the spinners.
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Old 15th March 2018, 19:21   #383
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England have had a relative dearth of outstanding slip fielders over the years. Stokes is probably the best of the current crop (although he is by no means infallible) but he tends to field at gully or square point. Cook is poor and Root is decent, but no better than that. Vince is a liability obvs. One of the best in recent memory was Jordan, although curiously he didn't field there often except to the spinners.
Except fielding in NZ.

He had that awesome series when he caught everything through gully.
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Old 15th March 2018, 21:03   #384
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England have had a relative dearth of outstanding slip fielders over the years. Stokes is probably the best of the current crop (although he is by no means infallible) but he tends to field at gully or square point. Cook is poor and Root is decent, but no better than that. Vince is a liability obvs. One of the best in recent memory was Jordan, although curiously he didn't field there often except to the spinners.
Stokes and Jordan don't tend to field there as they're exceptional out fielders, I guess they'll both field there more and more as they get older, not that it really matters for the test team in terms of Jordan.

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Except fielding in NZ.

He had that awesome series when he caught everything through gully.
Cook just tends to completely switch off at times, which was sort of excusable as captain and sometimes at the end of the opposition innings, he really needs to up his catching now though.
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Old 16th March 2018, 13:14   #385
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Except fielding in NZ.

He had that awesome series when he caught everything through gully.
I vaguely remember that. Didn't he take 5 or 6 in one match, some of them screamers?
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Cook just tends to completely switch off at times, which was sort of excusable as captain and sometimes at the end of the opposition innings, he really needs to up his catching now though.
He was poor to begin with but turned himself into a relatively reliable first slip. However, he has shelled a few dollies since he stepped down as captain.
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Broad dropped twice in this warm-up, by Vince in the gully and Malan at 3rd slip.
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Old 3rd April 2018, 09:23   #388
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This Test

Vince drop off Anderson
Vince drop off Broad
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Broad
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Vince drop off Anderson
Vince drop off Broad
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Broad
Stoneman and to a lesser extent Vince were probably thinking about their test careers.
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Vince drop off Anderson
Vince drop off Broad
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Broad
Was Stoneman silly point/short leg?
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Vince drop off Anderson
Vince drop off Broad
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Leach
Stoneman dropped off Broad
So, they can't bat and they can't catch. Brilliant.
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Didn’t Malan drop a catch at short leg?
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Didnít Malan drop a catch at short leg?
If it's the one I'm thinking of when there were two short legs, it wasn't actually a missed catch as replays showed it missing the bat.
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Dropped catches since Collingwood retired 2011
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Drops

34 - Cook
26 - Bairstow
24 - Prior
23 - Bell
21 - Swann, Root
17 - Anderson
12 - Broad
11 - Strauss
9 - Stokes
8 - Stoneman
7 - Bresnan, Vince, Buttler
6 - Trott, Finn
5 - Ballance
4 - Pietersen, Panesar, Ali
3 - Taylor, Rashid, Malan
2 - Tremlett, Jordan, Tredwell, Wood, Compton, Hameed, Jennings
1 - Morgan, Elstone, Carberry, Plunkett, Woakes, Lyth, Hales, Duckett, Ansari, Westley

Bowlers who had catches dropped

71 - Broad
60 - Anderson
31 - Swann
22- Stokes
20 - Ali
17 - Finn
10 - Bresnan
9 - Woakes
6 - Ansari, Root
5 - Tremlett, Panesar
4 - Jordan, Rashid
3 - Plunkett, Patel, Leach, Wood
2 - Batty
1 - Bopara, Onions, Pietersen, Tredwell, Ball

Catches percentage Cook
2006-2014 - 81%
2015 - present 69%

Missed opportunities at Lord's on Friday | England's five drops

2pm. Over 56. Anderson tempts Babar into a drive but Cook fails to hold on to a tough chance low to his right at first slip.

2.07pm. Over 58. Shafiq plays hard and loose at a wide one from Anderson, but Buttler ducks at gully where the ball flies over his head.

3.05pm. Over 71. A Stokes bumper takes the top of Shafiq's bat, only for gully Buttler to palm it away diving at full stretch.

5.30pm. Over 97. Faheem dangles the bat at a full ball from Wood, but neither Bairstow nor Cook react as it flies between keeper and first slip.

5.34pm. Over 98. Just one over later, Cook is again at fault when he puts down a simple chance at first slip after Anderson finds Shadab's outside edge.

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I think it might be time for Cook to field third man at both ends. They could put Malan at second with Root moving to first. Hopefully whoever replaces Stoneman will be good in the slips.
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I think it might be time for Cook to field third man at both ends. They could put Malan at second with Root moving to first. Hopefully whoever replaces Stoneman will be good in the slips.
I agree but he is a bit of a protected species is Al.
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Seeing practice - the slips Cook Malan Root Buttler.

Half the time Root wasn't in the slips at Lords and now he has changed from 2nd to 3rd slip. Why? I don't think Buttler, when not keeping, has ever fielded in the slips. Strange to see him at 3rd slip, duck when a ball came towards him at Lords.
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Seeing practice - the slips Cook Malan Root Buttler.

Half the time Root wasn't in the slips at Lords and now he has changed from 2nd to 3rd slip. Why? I don't think Buttler, when not keeping, has ever fielded in the slips. Strange to see him at 3rd slip, duck when a ball came towards him at Lords.
Seems reasonably logical to think a keeper who is used to standing behind the stumps and diving left and right to catch things might make for a decent slipper..............

Doesn't mean they would be, but one thing I think England should work on is the set up and make sure everyone knows what they are expected to go for, and by that I mean avoid slips diving in front of others and chances consequently going begging because they thought they could catch it and ignored that there's a cordon of slips and it's a team game.......

Taking catches is important, drops might not be their biggest issue at the moment given some of the stats about failing to make 300 in 24 of their last 13 Tests or something like that. Means everything else really has to fall in place, bowlers bowl well, fielders miss little.

Regarding bowlers in slips, I'd consider how much effort they put into their bowling and the impact that might have on their catching. Besides, surely it is better to have someone who stands there for the majority if not all of the innings than someone in and out having to replace them every time they bowl....................?!?!?! Unless they are a top notch slipper like Botham say, I'd suggest change basically for change's sake is naÔve
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Seems reasonably logical to think a keeper who is used to standing behind the stumps and diving left and right to catch things might make for a decent slipper..............

Doesn't mean they would be, but one thing I think England should work on is the set up and make sure everyone knows what they are expected to go for, and by that I mean avoid slips diving in front of others and chances consequently going begging because they thought they could catch it and ignored that there's a cordon of slips and it's a team game.......

Taking catches is important, drops might not be their biggest issue at the moment given some of the stats about failing to make 300 in 24 of their last 13 Tests or something like that. Means everything else really has to fall in place, bowlers bowl well, fielders miss little.

Regarding bowlers in slips, I'd consider how much effort they put into their bowling and the impact that might have on their catching. Besides, surely it is better to have someone who stands there for the majority if not all of the innings than someone in and out having to replace them every time they bowl....................?!?!?! Unless they are a top notch slipper like Botham say, I'd suggest change basically for change's sake is naÔve
Root at third pretty much standing in front of Malan, causing the latter to fumble an edge just now.
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England fielders' butter fingers

England haven't been at their best at holding on to the chances created by their bowlers in the recent past. According to ESPNcricinfo's ball-by-ball commentary, England have spilled at least 71 catches in 25 Tests in the last-two years. That's nearly three catches per match. In comparison Australia and South Africa - two of the best fielding teams in recent times - have dropped 47 catches in 23 matches and 57 catches in 27 Tests, respectively, in the same period.

Assuming that the sum of drops and catches make up the total chances created by the bowlers for a team, England's fielders haven't converted 22.7% of the chances created by their bowlers. The corresponding figure for Australia and South Africa is 15.3% and 15.6%, respectively.

What is perhaps of greater for concern for England, especially when playing at home, is that more than 50% of their drops (36 out of 71) have happened in the slip cordon and gully.
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