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Old 2nd July 2015, 16:04   #201
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Neither is Finn. He seems to have lost his pace, and that was all he had, and he's useless with the bat.

Having players you can be confident will fulfil any role is a luxury. The reality is it's given to the one thought most likely to.

Hopefully, Wood will be given a chance to show what he can do against the Aussies, but I'd rather see him take the new ball with Anderson and for someone else to be the 3rd seamer..
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Old 2nd July 2015, 16:10   #202
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but I'd rather see him take the new ball with Anderson and for someone else to be the 3rd seamer..
Gotta love the country where people deride a man with 287 Test wickets at under 30. Nowhere else in the world would Broad be dismissed in such a manner. Perhaps that's why we are so unsuccessful (relatively)?
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Old 3rd July 2015, 01:02   #203
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Gotta love the country where people deride a man with 287 Test wickets at under 30. Nowhere else in the world would Broad be dismissed in such a manner. Perhaps that's why we are so unsuccessful (relatively)?
You should probably just stop taking it seriously.
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Old 3rd July 2015, 10:36   #204
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You should probably just stop taking it seriously.
It's not just on here though!
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Old 3rd July 2015, 12:22   #205
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Gotta love the country where people deride a man with 287 Test wickets at under 30. Nowhere else in the world would Broad be dismissed in such a manner. Perhaps that's why we are so unsuccessful (relatively)?
After Gabe's excellent analysis, some of us should now have a better idea of the value of such statistics.

Despite his inexperience, Wood strikes me as more threatening with the new ball than Broad, that's all. Broad has a tendency to waste it by bowling too short.
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After Gabe's excellent analysis, we should all now have a better idea of the value of statistics.

Despite his inexperience, Wood strikes me as more threatening with the new ball than Broad, that's all. Broad has a tendency to waste it by bowling too short.
It's still new when Wood gets it. Round about 9 overs. Anyway with his pace it doesn't make a difference and he doesn't get it with Durham.
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Not as new and whatever happens with Durham, the judgment should always be which two bowlers would best use the new ball.

Given past performance, and unless our pace attack has little variation, it's hard to see how the answer to that question could include Broad.

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Hmm. Either what Broad's actually done in his career (as opposed to your rather idiosyncratic notions of what he ought to have done had the cricket Gods been as biased against Southerners as you are) matters or it doesn't. Which is it?
It means whichever suits the viewpoint currently being pursued.

Both Broad and Mitchell Johnson have good opportunities to break through the 300 Test wicket barrier this summer. One of them will be 33, the other just 29. Both could get to 400 depending on how much longer their bodies allow them to play Tests for.
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It's not just on here though!
You shouldn't take it seriously anywhere. There are things to be said against Broad and he's only been a good rather than great test bowler so far but anyone thinking we've got better out of the side is either taking the **** or an idiot (or both) and probably ought not to be engaged with seriously. Taking the **** back probably makes the most sense.
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It's not just on here though!
Might make one think there's some substance to it then, I suppose.

I've lost count of the number of times Broad's use of the new ball has been criticised on commentary.

Wood seems a bowler who could use it more tellingly.
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Now that Lyth and Ballance seem unlikely to be selected for the next test what are the alternatives?
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Bairstow 75* looks like the obvious replacement for Bell.

I thought England went for the wrong Yorkshire opener with Lyth ahead of Lees (and Root), but Lees hasn't been in the runs so it wouldn't be a great time to promote him.
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Agreed Bairstow needs a chance what about Borthwick to bat 3 or HALES?
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Now that Lyth and Ballance seem unlikely to be selected for the next test what are the alternatives?
Very thin on the ground, unfortunately. They may be looking for one for Bell too.
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If only we had a proven international batsman who's averaging 156.33 in first class cricket this year who we could slot in at 4.
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Wondered how long it'd take for that sort of comment and who'd make it.
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Just select Yorkshire minus their current test players and the imports.
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Lyth 0 and 7
Ballance 23 and 14
Root 1 and 11*

Isn't what we need.

We need more Stuart Broads instead
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I said minus their current test players.
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Stuart Broad England's best batsman.

Now that's what we need.

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