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Old 2nd November 2012, 12:13   #161
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Kabir Ali joins Lancs

http://www.ecb.co.uk/news/domestic/c...320068,EN.html
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Old 2nd November 2012, 12:19   #162
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Wasn't expecting that!
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Old 2nd November 2012, 13:44   #163
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Can't imagine Kabir Ali keeping up with Moores' fitness standards.
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Old 2nd November 2012, 13:50   #164
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Old 8th November 2012, 20:11   #165
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I'll miss him at Hampshire
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Old 14th November 2012, 16:17   #166
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Katich following Kabir Ali in making the move from Hants to Lancs- http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/...ry/591252.html

Interesting one, I assume Prince must have been unavailable as he was their only decent performer with the bat last season..? Katich didn't really score the runs which might have been expected either.

Thoughts Lancashire and Hants fans?
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Old 14th November 2012, 17:06   #167
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Sorry to see Kat go - he's worth his weight in gold in a dressing room full of young players...
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Old 14th November 2012, 19:29   #168
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Maybe, but what weight will he be worth on the field?
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Old 14th November 2012, 20:51   #169
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I like Katich and Kabir but both would have been big earners and neither did enough on the field this season to be worth another contract really. Wouldn't be too surprised if we didn't bother with an overseas this year.
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Old 14th November 2012, 22:03   #170
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Sorry to see Kat go - he's worth his weight in gold in a dressing room full of young players...
I'm sure he's a loss to Hants and he's been signed to guide the 32yo Moore, 30yo Horton, 28yo Croft, 28yo Cross etc - not to mention the soon to be 39 year old Chapple.
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Old 6th December 2012, 13:18   #171
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Old 23rd December 2012, 13:33   #172
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An article on the perils of overseas recruiting that counties face - but it makes the point very well that there are options out there. I've added a comment myself that the field of candidates would be much larger if the eligibility rules were relaxed - many players who would be available for the entire season can't be chosen because they don't fulfill the requirements.
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Old 23rd December 2012, 13:52   #173
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An article on the perils of overseas recruiting that counties face - but it makes the point very well that there are options out there. I've added a comment myself that the field of candidates would be much larger if the eligibility rules were relaxed - many players who would be available for the entire season can't be chosen because they don't fulfill the requirements.
Poor article I thought in that there is no mention of even the outline requirements for a work permit. You can see the result as posters talk about young Australians without realising they dont qualify. Daren Ganga certainly doesnt qualify for a work permit and so that tends to rubbish the example. The fact that Daren no longer plays for Trinidad and could not make a county side just emphasises that the examples are stretched. Not mentioning EU wives is also a weakness(key criterion in a work permit for several players).

Shame as its an important topic poorly understood by the average fan.
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Old 23rd December 2012, 13:56   #174
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Some interesting names there as well.

I wouldn't mind Ganga as captain at Essex. Not sure I'd want him as a batsman though.
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Old 23rd December 2012, 23:09   #175
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It's funny about the work permit rules. A fringe player from Australia or South Africa would be better than some first choice players from other countries. The lesser players would qualify for a work permit and the Aussies/Saffer fringe players wouldn't.
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Old 24th December 2012, 12:01   #176
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Some interesting names there as well.

I wouldn't mind Ganga as captain at Essex. Not sure I'd want him as a batsman though.
What is it with you lot and specialist captains?
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What is it with you lot and specialist captains?
We're constantly searching for the next Mark Pettini as when we found the next Graham Gooch England pinched him.
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It's funny about the work permit rules. A fringe player from Australia or South Africa would be better than some first choice players from other countries. The lesser players would qualify for a work permit and the Aussies/Saffer fringe players wouldn't.
The problem is that the counties went so overboard on signing Kolpaks that they can't be trusted not to fill the side with pony South Africans again. The ECB were quite lucky that French rugby had a similar problem and managed to change the EU laws. Making sure that they fit certain criteria is the fairest way of doing it and if you look hard enough you will find one. Never in a million years would I have thought Steve Magoffin would turn out to be Sussex's player of the year.
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Old 24th December 2012, 15:51   #179
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The Kolpak rules are gone, right? So counties couldn't sign a team of South Africans even if they wanted to. They have to stick to the one overseas player rule, so why not let them sign whoever they want for as that one player? Better that than only being able to sign players (like Magoffin) who can find a loophole in the rules.
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Old 24th December 2012, 17:51   #180
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The Kolpak rules are gone, right? So counties couldn't sign a team of South Africans even if they wanted to. They have to stick to the one overseas player rule, so why not let them sign whoever they want for as that one player? Better that than only being able to sign players (like Magoffin) who can find a loophole in the rules.

Not Quite , but Kolpak has been dinished by work permit rules which apply to Kolpakand Overseas. Let me give you the example of Dwayne Smith.

Smith 'Kolpaked" and signed a three year contract with Sussex. He was required by ECB to agree not to play for West Indies and duly declined an invitation to play in the 20/20 world cup. Then he lost his contract because he hadnt played 15 ODIs in the last two years and could no longer get a permit. Catch 22. A Kolpak cannot play for his home side but to get a work permit must have played 15 internationals over the prior two years.

So Kolpaks will naturally die out as they lose their work permit Quals.

The most strange ruling is that if you have a UK wife you get a permit as an overseas(eg Magoffin). However if you have an EU wife you can play on a permit as non overseas (Eg Naveed Arif)
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