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Old 26th October 2012, 10:23   #21
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I'm not really sure what's being achieved by continuing to hold the MCC v Champions match at Abu Dhabi, other than a greater chance of uninterrupted play. There never seems to be more than a few dozen spectators in attendance.

I started at Fenner's in 2010 when Surrey played there over Easter weekend. A pleasant venue in a great town for pubs. I'm still waiting for Surrey to visit The Parks, which I'm told is the more historic and charismatic ground.
My only trip to Fenners was in 1988 when the Windies played a warm-up match against the Universities. Sadly I think Windies were batting.
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Old 26th October 2012, 10:47   #22
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I can remember a young Naqaash Tahir going out to his his first ball from a young Chris Wright at Fenners - and smashing it straight into the pavilion for six.

Also remember we played there in our first game under Mark Greatbatch. We managed to injure two keepers that day - Batch's reaction to this tiny bit of preseason pressure was poor - and an indcation of what we had to put up with for the next two years #ogre
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Old 26th October 2012, 11:34   #23
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I'm still waiting for Surrey to visit The Parks, which I'm told is the more historic and charismatic ground.
And an even better town for pubs.
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Old 26th October 2012, 17:17   #24
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I don't know about that. I lived in Oxford for 3 years, and have only been to the place on the Fens about a dozen times, but had a superb pub-crawl there about 3 weeks ago. Planning on going back soon to finish the pubs off, as we ran out of time to do all the entries in the current GBG!
Oxford pubs are better than when I lived there, mind you- the city was just coping with the closure of Morrells' brewery at the time.
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Old 6th November 2012, 15:51   #25
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Today there's about 20 people (okay, so I'm exaggerating just a little) on Twitter asking when the fixtures will be out - I still don't understand why they have to keep it like some closely-guarded secret.
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Old 6th November 2012, 16:22   #26
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Today there's about 20 people (okay, so I'm exaggerating just a little) on Twitter asking when the fixtures will be out - I still don't understand why they have to keep it like some closely-guarded secret.
Years ago, before the days of super computers, the following seasons' fixtures were available around the penultimate Championship game. They were termed 'provisional' but they almost always turned out to be the final schedule.

Now, I know we have two divisions now and that means having to wait until the end of the season to determine next year's leagues but, does it really take two months?
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Old 6th November 2012, 16:27   #27
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The problem is that provisional lists are given to the counties who may then request some fixtures to be changed.

For example Durham always like to play away from home at the start of the season and prefer to play Yorkshire (when in the same division) in mid summer (presumably to increase crowd attendance).

Of course it will be up to the ECB to grant these requests and counties don't always get their way but it takes up a bit of time getting the fixtures out.
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The problem is that provisional lists are given to the counties who may then request some fixtures to be changed.

For example Durham always like to play away from home at the start of the season and prefer to play Yorkshire (when in the same division) in mid summer (presumably to increase crowd attendance).

Of course it will be up to the ECB to grant these requests and counties don't always get their way but it takes up a bit of time getting the fixtures out.
So, we're talking traditional preferences here. Which the ECB will have been aware of before Yorkshire even gained promotion.
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Maybe it is a minor gripe about this fixtures date thing, and maybe the ECB get annoyed by being constantly asked about it - though I know the counties like to have them asap so they can start selling memberships, hospitality packages, print diaries etc.

I'm sure there are those things to tweak, but I still don't see why deciding a date is so difficult - the Football League publishes its fixtures in June, but it announces the date for this in March! And it faces if anything far more complex planning issues:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletc...e_compute.html
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Maybe it is a minor gripe about this fixtures date thing, and maybe the ECB get annoyed by being constantly asked about it - though I know the counties like to have them asap so they can start selling memberships, hospitality packages, print diaries etc.
And we need them asap in order to get next year's annual leave booked before our colleagues start tucking into the holiday chart!
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Maybe it is a minor gripe about this fixtures date thing, and maybe the ECB get annoyed by being constantly asked about it - though I know the counties like to have them asap so they can start selling memberships, hospitality packages, print diaries etc.

I'm sure there are those things to tweak, but I still don't see why deciding a date is so difficult - the Football League publishes its fixtures in June, but it announces the date for this in March! And it faces if anything far more complex planning issues:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletc...e_compute.html
You Are spot on there, football has a much bigger complication in the need to prevent the tens of league sides that share the same city or town from playing at home on the same day, in addition to complimenting European football and international fixtures.
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So, we're talking traditional preferences here. Which the ECB will have been aware of before Yorkshire even gained promotion.
But it doesn't always work out that way. For example, Durham may be down to play Notts at the Riverside in the first CC game of the season. They may then ring Notts up and ask if they would consider reversing the games to they play at TB in late April and the Riverside when the teams meet again during the season. If both teams agree then it goes to the ECB to hopefully ratify it. The draft fixture list is complied by computer software so teams don't automatically get what they want each season.
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But it doesn't always work out that way. For example, Durham may be down to play Notts at the Riverside in the first CC game of the season. They may then ring Notts up and ask if they would consider reversing the games to they play at TB in late April and the Riverside when the teams meet again during the season. If both teams agree then it goes to the ECB to hopefully ratify it. The draft fixture list is complied by computer software so teams don't automatically get what they want each season.
With the CC, I can't see how it makes that much difference when and where sides play one another. It's not as if a jigging of a fixture will result in an extra 2000 visiting fans coming through the gates.
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Does someone fancy ringing up a county and asking when they are out? Go on, you know you want to...
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I just hope Yorkshire get a better fixture list than last year. We had 5 home matches in April & May (the last ended in June) then T20 and away matches until August/September when it was 3 home matches in 4 weeks. Why couldn't some of the away games be switched so that we had home matches throughout the season.
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With the CC, I can't see how it makes that much difference when and where sides play one another. It's not as if a jigging of a fixture will result in an extra 2000 visiting fans coming through the gates.
You obvioulsly haven't been to the Riverside in late April then. It would be warmer watching cricket in December.
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You obvioulsly haven't been to the Riverside in late April then. It would be warmer watching cricket in December.
Well, presumably, someone has to play there at that time?
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Well, presumably, someone has to play there at that time?
Indeed, but we try to play as little as possible up there during that time. Even the penguins told me at one match it was colder here than where they live. Mind you I may have been hallucinating as it was so cold.
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Didn't it used to be the second Thursday in November for a while - or is my memory playing tricks on me?
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