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Old 1st March 2020, 14:41   #1
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The speed up the ****ing game thread

Last night, New Zealand took a wicket 11 balls before the afternoon drinks break. Cue drinks coming on as the new batter walked out.

11 balls later they had the drinks break.
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Old 1st March 2020, 16:18   #2
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In the session of two hours there is a drinks break. There should be no change of gloves, bats, getting rid of helmet for cap, tablets, drinks etc. When a wicket goes down there is time for that. The umpires are at fault. Law 16.6.

A few years ago
'It defied description yesterday afternoon when, four minutes before stumps, drinks were run out to the Indian batsmen at the Gabba, along with towels and an assortment of batting gloves.

Yes, thatís right, four minutes before stumps'.
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Old 1st March 2020, 19:51   #3
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I don't see any problem with drinks (or gloves etc) being run out at the fall of a wicket IF it doesn't delay play. If it does, the umpires should be allowed to take action up to & including points deductions (for repeated/blatant time wasting).
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Old 1st March 2020, 20:41   #4
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Time to speed up the review system. No more running a film backwards and forwards endlessly. If there’s no clear evidence, give the batsman the benefit of the doubt. When it gets down to millimetres, it gets ridiculous.
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Old 1st March 2020, 22:43   #5
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In the session of two hours there is a drinks break. There should be no change of gloves, bats, getting rid of helmet for cap, tablets, drinks etc. When a wicket goes down there is time for that. The umpires are at fault. Law 16.6.

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'It defied description yesterday afternoon when, four minutes before stumps, drinks were run out to the Indian batsmen at the Gabba, along with towels and an assortment of batting gloves.

Yes, thatís right, four minutes before stumps'.
It's not just batsmen who are guilty. Middlesex v Surrey 2016, the start of the final day's play, the players all walked out to the middle, the Surrey batsman was ready to take guard. Then Middlesex decided they were going to open the bowling with a spinner so we had a 3 minute wait while helmets and other protective gear was fetched from the dressing room for the keeper and close fielders.

I also recall an incident at The Oval the previous season when Michael Klinger of Gloucestershire decided the sole advertising board on a balcony above the sightscreen and some distance away from the bowler's arm was an unacceptable distraction. We had to wait at least ten minutes while groundstaff found tools and walked from the opposite end of the ground to remove it. I know what I'd have told Klinger had I been umpiring. (He was out anyway shortly afterwards.)
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Old 2nd March 2020, 09:25   #6
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A few years ago
'It defied description yesterday afternoon when, four minutes before stumps, drinks were run out to the Indian batsmen at the Gabba, along with towels and an assortment of batting gloves.

Yes, thatís right, four minutes before stumps'.
That's clearly a tactic to make certain there was only one more over before the close of play. Perhaps if all 90 were guaranteed we would have less issue.
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Old 2nd March 2020, 09:29   #7
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I still remember the tactics we used at the end of the Ashes test in Cardiff 2009.

That was quite embarrassing.
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Old 2nd March 2020, 10:47   #8
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Time to speed up the review system. No more running a film backwards and forwards endlessly. If thereís no clear evidence, give the batsman the benefit of the doubt. When it gets down to millimetres, it gets ridiculous.
DRS puts more pressure on speeding up the game elsewhere. Rushed decisions that then get shown to have been wrong will cause huge furore after the game and devalue the use of DRS and undermine umpires. I think a bit more autonomy to the third umpire might help. Eg for an lbw decision, if it's clear that the ball has pitched outside leg, don't spend time checking the point of contact first.
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Old 2nd March 2020, 11:55   #9
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In the session of two hours there is a drinks break. There should be no change of gloves, bats, getting rid of helmet for cap, tablets, drinks etc. When a wicket goes down there is time for that. The umpires are at fault. Law 16.6.

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'It defied description yesterday afternoon when, four minutes before stumps, drinks were run out to the Indian batsmen at the Gabba, along with towels and an assortment of batting gloves.

Yes, thatís right, four minutes before stumps'.
Agreed. Time to stop stuff being run onto the pitch all the time.
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One of my gripes is watching players stroll out at 1.40pm after lunch, the first ball of the afternoon session is bowled nearer 1.45pm. This behaviour stems from the umpires who rarely seem in much of a rush to get the game moving again.
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Old 2nd March 2020, 15:16   #11
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well, the hundred will speed everything up.

all grounds should have 2 small covered manholes to put bats, gloves, cold drinks in, so that nobody needs to run out to the middle to delay play.

really, it's up to the umpires to keep play moving, you would think they would want to get off the ground a.s.a.p, after being out there all day anyway.
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Old 2nd March 2020, 16:56   #12
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I think almost all sports have slowed down over recent years for breaks etc -for example football games kicking off at 3 used to finish at 4.50 ish in old days, now they usually go past 5 pm.

So I don't expect any improvement
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I'm probably in the minority but it doesn't really bother me that much. I agree they could be more flexible with the drinks break but I've no issue with the time DRS takes.
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I'm probably in the minority but it doesn't really bother me that much. I agree they could be more flexible with the drinks break but I've no issue with the time DRS takes.
Conversely I think that DRS often takes a ridiculous amount of time.
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I'm probably in the minority but it doesn't really bother me that much. I agree they could be more flexible with the drinks break but I've no issue with the time DRS takes.
I find it all more tedious when watching live than on TV (when you can distract yourself for 3 minutes more easily). At its best, cricket live is watching 6 hours of players wandering around a field regularly interrupted by a few seconds of action. No need to extend the gaps between the action any further.
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I'm probably in the minority but it doesn't really bother me that much. I agree they could be more flexible with the drinks break but I've no issue with the time DRS takes.
I'm with you.

If anything, I prefer to give the game time to breathe. The worst cricket to watch is the bit when teams bring on a part-time trundler to rush through some overs to get the over-rate up.

They showed the World Cup final again on Sky the other night. That last over took ages to bowl. Hope that wasn't too tedious for all the over-rate fetishists.
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sort of agree other than when deprived of a few overs in a test match - think it has been known to lose 10 overs in a day - doesnt bother me in a limited overs game too much
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I find it all more tedious when watching live than on TV (when you can distract yourself for 3 minutes more easily). At its best, cricket live is watching 6 hours of players wandering around a field regularly interrupted by a few seconds of action. No need to extend the gaps between the action any further.
True, as much as I clearly love the game of cricket by about 5 o'clock on a Championship/Test day I've had my fill and just head home, unless the game really is delicately poised. I'm not sure how many would truly demand their money back for there being 5 overs fewer overs bowled but the intensity for the rest of the day was higher as a result.
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Old 3rd March 2020, 06:57   #19
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I'm with you.

If anything, I prefer to give the game time to breathe. The worst cricket to watch is the bit when teams bring on a part-time trundler to rush through some overs to get the over-rate up.

They showed the World Cup final again on Sky the other night. That last over took ages to bowl. Hope that wasn't too tedious for all the over-rate fetishists.
I think you're the first person to mention over rates.

It's not how many overs are bowled, it's just incessant stoppages at moments which aren't full of tension. No one is going to worry too much about pauses to set the field in a moment of high drama. It's the glove changes, drinks breaks, slow umpiring, arguing over the shape of the ball etc that happen throughout a day's play that are the source of frustrations.
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I think you're the first person to mention over rates.

It's not how many overs are bowled, it's just incessant stoppages at moments which aren't full of tension. No one is going to worry too much about pauses to set the field in a moment of high drama. It's the glove changes, drinks breaks, slow umpiring, arguing over the shape of the ball etc that happen throughout a day's play that are the source of frustrations.
I forgot that one.

a) DRS
b) concussion tests
c) change of gloves
d) change of bat
e) moving the sightscreen
f) sightscreen stuck on advertising
g) movement behind the bowler's arm
h) drinks being brought on, not on a drinks break
i) having the ball checked (Broad)
j) excessive marking of guard (Trott)
k) batman not ready after bowler runs in (Root)*
l) waiting for the light meter
m) having the bowlers footholes being fixed
n) bowler needing a change of boots
o) bowler bowling 3 balls at fielder at the start of a spell
p) batsman tying his laces to make sure it's the last over before a break
q) tablets and water for bowler or batsman
r) helmet change to cap
s) bat needing taping
t) arguing with the umpire
u) repeated viewings if a fielder has saved a boundary or not
v) batsmen stopping the bowler as wicketkeeper is sledging
w) umpire getting involved in players sledging
x) after concussion tests various helmets tried out
y) physio on for cramp and various other things
z) batsmen waiting on the boundary for no ball check.

* while Root bowls the fastest overs running back to his mark.
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