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Old 26th July 2020, 19:20   #141
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The fake crowd were getting restless. They could sense that we needed to declare sooner rather than later.
They sound just the same now,even though we’ve got a wicket. They perhaps missed it as they’d still have been queuing for drinks or the loo.
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Old 26th July 2020, 19:23   #142
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Old 26th July 2020, 19:32   #143
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Look at them all running into position -time for just one more over by Broad!
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Old 26th July 2020, 20:13   #144
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England would probably have plenty now if they lost 10 for 0. I fully expect t20 batting after tea. We have to play as if tomorrow is a complete write off. We are not going to lose so go for it.
Absolutely. I'd probably have been looking to move it on a bit earlier than they did, get 45 minutes to an hour in tonight, as it was they got six overs and may be wondering if they mightn't have gotten a wicket or two more had they moved it along a bit faster.

I could understand not being too rash too early, but they more or less crawled for a side all but completely in charge and chasing the win for so much of the innings.

38/0 off 15 overs (RR 2.53)
80/0 off 30 overs (RR 2.67)
135/1 off 45 overs (RR 3.00)
226/2 off 58 overs (RR 3.90)

bye the bye, cricinfo seems to be a bit off rounding - says England RR 3.89 but it's 3.89655 so to two DP is 3.90 , same for 30 overs mark says 2.66

Not nearly enough acceleration, should have been setting targets like 100 off 30 overs, 180 off 45 overs, attainable without too much wicket loss. Frankly to score only 42 and 55 off overs 16-30 and 31-45 respectively is pretty poor with only one wicket going in either period, the early run rate fair enough.

Still they got there in the end for the usual 'accepted' practice of a few awkward overs at the death. I'd rather have enough to take 3-4 wickets but not enough to put the opposition in any kind of good position and even if you bowl say 15 overs at the end of a day what are the opposition going to do at best? Maybe 60/0, more likely 45/0 or less and more than likely a wicket or two, but time to really do damage.

Put another way, often it is said 'do what your opponent would like least' and I bet whilst windies would not like facing six overs at the death, they'd be even less liking of having to bat for an hour with little to be gained. That is without even referring to the windies 93/94 tour where windies left England 40/8 at the close, and didn't even need a change of bowler in the innings (not saying England could have done that, but they'd have been happy to have faced out six overs! and likely have been 3 down not 8)
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Old 26th July 2020, 20:20   #145
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Broad has been sensational in this series.

Perhaps England will only get 5 overs in now, but a small price to pay as they got the wicket they wanted.
I looked at his record earlier with a view to seeing if his (and Anderson) not playing ODIs had improved his performances.

I was quite astounded that since he stopped playing ODIs in 2016 I think it was he has taking roughly half the wickets he had previously in about half the Tests, slightly lower average but this was only his THIRD 5wi since then.... (15 before, 3 since)

So previously he had taken fifteen 5wi in 30 series, only three 5wi in 17th series since. Not that 5wi are the be all and end all, seven 4wi 'best' in series he didn't take 5wi among the 17 series.


I had expected marked improvements in his figures once he'd stopped playing ODIs, but no real indications of that being the case
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Old 26th July 2020, 20:36   #146
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Broad now has more wickets at OT than Jimmy. They should (re)name an end after him.
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Old 26th July 2020, 20:42   #147
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Broad now has more wickets at OT than Jimmy. They should (re)name an end after him.
Well, if he wants to leave Notts for Lancs....
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Old 26th July 2020, 22:47   #148
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Just seen the woakes no ball. Wtf? No way that was clearly a no ball.
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Old 26th July 2020, 22:59   #149
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Just seen the woakes no ball. Wtf? No way that was clearly a no ball.
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Didn't look like a no ball to me, and I am wearing brand new glasses following my recent eye check. I'll grant that it was debatable.
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Looked like a no-ball to me.
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Kinda hard to believe that at the beginning of this series Joe Denly was considered to be in the best XI and Broad wasn't.
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Old 27th July 2020, 01:22   #153
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If Broad gets Brathwaite as his 500th wicket then he will be the only batsman out to two bowlers on their 500.
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Old 27th July 2020, 01:33   #154
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Didn't look like a no ball to me, and I am wearing brand new glasses following my recent eye check. I'll grant that it was debatable.
Still got the receipt? watching on my phone* and there was a clear bit of line visible behind his heel.

*for free, using cricket Australia app. Tragic how much easier and cheaper it is to watch England in Australia!
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I can’t see how anyone thought it was a no ball. I am with holding on this. Nothing has to be grounded behind the line, it just has to be behind it and the very back of his shoe was.
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No. You can even see the line behind his shoe!
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Old 27th July 2020, 07:13   #157
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Yep, no ball, clearly could see a bit of the line behind his heel.
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Old 27th July 2020, 09:54   #159
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Forecast rubbish for today. I live half an hour away and it's hammering it down here. Tuesday looks better.
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Forecast rubbish for today. I live half an hour away and it's hammering it down here. Tuesday looks better.
I think everyone assumed that today would be a write off and the declaration was made accordingly. If they get any cricket at all today (small chance this afternoon) it'll be a bonus.
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