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Old 16th August 2020, 12:16   #161
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Saw dust comes out, ****ing hell
Deplorable effort by the groundstaff, given the high profile and worldwide interest in this match. Cricket having its "The King has got no clothes" moment.
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Old 16th August 2020, 12:37   #162
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as for this Test, BBC were concluding England would have to finish off Pakistan quickly, race into a lead and bowl them out cheaply.

Not sure that is the only route to winning, but if they can't manage two full days which is reported to be unlikely then I'd be counting on how many runs might still be scored.

England would have to knock Pakistan over quickly, and bowl them out cheaply second time around. Even Pakistan scoring an aggregate of say 350 means England have to score one more run and that's asking for there to be enough play for around 450 runs, a tall order even if England can race along quickly which is as or possibly more likely to bring a Pakistan win than England win.

If anything I'd suggest if England push for a win, and I think it would be a little silly to do so at 1-0 up, on a pitch where quick scoring may be difficult and result in a collapse (not that England can't do that anytime) for the slim chance of bowling Pakistan out cheaply (and quickly)

11 wickets in two days, even incomplete days, is not beyond reason, but have to add in England wickets and probably 300+ runs, there's the problem. Push for a win when you're on top, to do so here would be foolish
Let's be honest, it's just Manchester that's the problem here.

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Was it his fault? Surely a groundsman needs to take charge of this.
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Old 16th August 2020, 12:38   #163
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If they did bowl England out by teatime they could have had a slog and possibly declared overnight. Bit irrelevant now. A waste of a few overs.
It would take a collapse by one side or other to produce anything but a draw.

How much of a plan Pakistan have might be hard to say, might have just attacked to score as many runs as possible, they may consider all the risk of losing sits with England and just want to get at England

Plan for England surely has to be to lay a foundation and accelerate, much like last Test against windies except maybe not so slow to accelerate. A fairly quickly scored 180+ would put pressure on Pakistan, surely wouldn't be enough time to set a 'safe' target and even if they did surely England with 10 wickets could survive what couldn't be more than two sessions.



Looks like there is forecast probable rain around 1pm, might get a bit of play in today and maybe also tomorrow, but I doubt they can count on enough to be too conservative. If only they could have made more of having Pakistan 120/5
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Old 16th August 2020, 12:38   #164
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Burns looked like he wouldn't get through the first over.
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Old 16th August 2020, 12:39   #165
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Rizwan is my new favourite cricketer I think. And the first one down for England. Good delivery that.
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Old 16th August 2020, 12:40   #166
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Hard to blame burns for that.
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Old 16th August 2020, 12:40   #167
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Surely leg side.
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Old 16th August 2020, 12:42   #168
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The light might hold out longer than we will judging by that first over.
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Old 16th August 2020, 12:44   #169
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England might be wishing the light had stayed bad.
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And the first one down for England. Good delivery that.
whilst BBC were trying to think of ways England could win, perhaps they forgot England have had a few troubles of recent years getting good starts and the conditions are hardly conducive to say 200/3 off 50 overs which even here may not help force a win.

Fair enough Pakistan aren't likely to be able to enforce the follow on, England will still feel the pressure and I doubt either side will take a risk to try and win from here


What we could see is two sides jockeying for psychological advantage for the third Test. I'm sure Bess will bat, but could be about all he does (much of) for England in what's left of this Test.
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Old 16th August 2020, 12:44   #171
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Hard to see England's county top order lasting long here. County openers don't tend to last long against county bowlers in conditions such as this, so big ask for these three to survive this quality international swing and seam attack.
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Old 16th August 2020, 12:48   #172
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England might be wishing the light had stayed bad.
it may not been gone and forgotten, there may even be a case for calling it a draw and preparing for the next Test there's unlikely to be much more than token play

Oh and the forecast appears to have changed, sure the probabilty of rain for 12-1 and 1-2 was lower than it is currently not many minutes on
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light meters out I gather, may just be the dark (clouds) before some rain
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Old 16th August 2020, 12:59   #174
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light meters out I gather, may just be the dark (clouds) before some rain
It's 11am in August in the south of England. Yes, there's rain around but no giant thunderheads and they've got lights on. No way the light is too dark.
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Old 16th August 2020, 13:01   #175
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Here we go again. Try again tomorrow.
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Old 16th August 2020, 13:24   #176
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Here we go again. Try again tomorrow.
Honestly cricket being played almost for the sake of it is rather tedious, may be a blessing just to write the remaining days off and call it what it is invariably going to end as - a draw
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Honestly cricket being played almost for the sake of it is rather tedious, may be a blessing just to write the remaining days off and call it what it is invariably going to end as - a draw
Might as well since they don't have any ticket money to refund.
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Old 16th August 2020, 18:13   #178
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Just to add insult to injury the sun is now out at the Rose Bowl.
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Old 16th August 2020, 19:05   #179
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Feel sorry for Pakistan, who made a huge effort and sacrifice to participate in this test series and are subjected to this farce. Cricket really does itself no favours at times. You can't be having bad light or poor drainage as a reason to suspend play in the year 2020. It's just shooting yourself in the foot. They're playing test cricket at night in other countries now.
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Old 16th August 2020, 19:10   #180
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I suspect they won't play tomorrow regardless of the weather.

If the sun is out the umpires will just say water got under the covers and will take too long to dry.
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