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Old 30th August 2020, 23:58   #21
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Stewart was captain for 98/99 no?
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Old 31st August 2020, 15:38   #22
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England T20I squad: Eoin Morgan (capt), Moeen Ali, Jofra Archer, Jonny Bairstow, Tom Banton, Sam Billings, Jos Buttler, Sam Curran, Tom Curran, Joe Denly, Chris Jordan, Dawid Malan, Adil Rashid, Mark Wood.

Reserves: Liam Livingstone, Saqib Mahmood

England ODI Squad: Eoin Morgan (capt), Moeen Ali, Jofra Archer, Jonny Bairstow, Tom Banton, Sam Billings, Jos Buttler, Sam Curran, Tom Curran, Adil Rashid, Joe Root, Chris Woakes, Mark Wood.

Reserves: Joe Denly, Saqib Mahmood

Why 3 keepers but no Root?

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Old 31st August 2020, 16:25   #23
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I see Moeen has kept his place in both squads.
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Old 31st August 2020, 16:51   #24
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England T20I squad: Eoin Morgan (capt), Moeen Ali, Jofra Archer, Jonny Bairstow, Tom Banton, Sam Billings, Jos Buttler, Sam Curran, Tom Curran, Joe Denly, Chris Jordan, Dawid Malan, Adil Rashid, Mark Wood.

Reserves: Liam Livingstone, Saqib Mahmood

England ODI Squad: Eoin Morgan (capt), Moeen Ali, Jofra Archer, Jonny Bairstow, Tom Banton, Sam Billings, Jos Buttler, Sam Curran, Tom Curran, Adil Rashid, Joe Root, Chris Woakes, Mark Wood.

Reserves: Joe Denly, Saqib Mahmood

Why 3 keepers but no Root?
Joe Root is no longer a first choice for T20 would be the explanation. Let him focus on his strengths in ODI and Tests. He needs a break.
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Old 31st August 2020, 16:51   #25
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David Willey seems to be out of favour.
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Old 31st August 2020, 16:57   #26
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David Willey seems to be out of favour.
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Old 31st August 2020, 17:24   #27
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I see Moeen has kept his place in both squads.
Laughable - the Ozzies will be delighted.
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Old 31st August 2020, 18:15   #28
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England T20I squad: Eoin Morgan (capt), Moeen Ali, Jofra Archer, Jonny Bairstow, Tom Banton, Sam Billings, Jos Buttler, Sam Curran, Tom Curran, Joe Denly, Chris Jordan, Dawid Malan, Adil Rashid, Mark Wood.

Reserves: Liam Livingstone, Saqib Mahmood

England ODI Squad: Eoin Morgan (capt), Moeen Ali, Jofra Archer, Jonny Bairstow, Tom Banton, Sam Billings, Jos Buttler, Sam Curran, Tom Curran, Adil Rashid, Joe Root, Chris Woakes, Mark Wood.

Reserves: Joe Denly, Saqib Mahmood

Why 3 keepers but no Root?
Isnít it 4 keepers, the 4 Bís - Bairstow, Banton, Billings, Butler.

Surely Root is a better option than Denly?
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Old 31st August 2020, 18:41   #29
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Root might just be rested but it's strange that Woakes still doesn't get a go in the T20's, would have made sense to select him for that squad and rest him for the ODI's where he's a sure fire pick (could give his ODI place to Willey who actually performed the last time out)

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Stewart was captain for 98/99 no?
Can't remember that but I know I missed out Gooch for some reason.
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Old 31st August 2020, 21:22   #30
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Isnít it 4 keepers, the 4 Bís - Bairstow, Banton, Billings, Butler.

Surely Root is a better option than Denly?
I'd say Root is a better option than Mo as a second spinner but I guess you have to bat him at 3 and there isnt really a spot there at the moment. Morgan seems to really rate Mo though and I'd trust his judgment. I've never really been impressed with Dawson when he has had a go.
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Root might just be rested but it's strange that Woakes still doesn't get a go in the T20's, would have made sense to select him for that squad and rest him for the ODI's where he's a sure fire pick (could give his ODI place to Willey who actually performed the last time out)



Can't remember that but I know I missed out Gooch for some reason.
They have decided on Jordan for T20s and Woakes for ODIs. Woakes last played T20s 5 years ago. After 4 years Jordan was brought back for 3 ODIs in Feb 2020, 14.2-90-2.
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Old 1st September 2020, 10:08   #32
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Root has shown recently that he now lacks the big hitting firepower that we seem to require for our T20 team. Malan has also made himself all but undroppable at 3 too.

Not sure on the team balance. Moeen and Denley are the only all rounder options so I'm guessing one of whom (probably Mo) will bat at 6. The tail looks weak if you choose Archer and Wood which I think you'd want to. Billings looks booked in for a month of drinks carrying....
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Root has shown recently that he now lacks the big hitting firepower that we seem to require for our T20 team. Malan has also made himself all but undroppable at 3 too.

Not sure on the team balance. Moeen and Denley are the only all rounder options so I'm guessing one of whom (probably Mo) will bat at 6..
Moeen's white ball summer

4 innings with the bat, 2 runs, out 4 times.

26 overs, 0 wickets.

6 wickets in the last 15 T20s

1 fifty in 30 T20s - 5 years ago.

Ozzies will be delighted if he plays.
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Old 1st September 2020, 15:43   #34
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Root, Cook, Strauss, Flintoff, Vaughan, Hussain, Atherton, Gower, Botham, Cowdrey
You may have gone the same wrong way I did, not sure Cowdrey captained beyond Windies 1988 but wasn't him - or Botham and Gower.

You missed the 98/99 captain, think the captain who wasn't David "Biggles" Gower was captain on that tour and for quite a spell.

Not sure about the one I got wrong and his replacement.

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Chanderpaul, Lara, Gayle, Richards, Sobers, Greenidge, Sarwan, Hooper, Weekes, Worrell

Got to 8 on the West Indians then struggled to think of batsman who had played that many games so went old school, Walcott was next.
Not Sarwan was one, think I may have guessed him also, but seems he is #11.

Not sure Hooper was on the list, seems he is #12 and also crossed my mind. I did consider but didn't include one who was around at the time of Richards, Greenidge and Haynes. One is way back but not a WWW.

You got Shiv who I completely forgot about! And you missed a former captain
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David Willey seems to be out of favour.
There have been many a call for Willey out......
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Old 1st September 2020, 15:45   #36
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Can't remember that but I know I missed out Gooch for some reason.
yup, old chicken legs and Stewie were two, the third you hardly think of as a captain but notoriously he and his compatriot Smith held off the West Indies attack in 1988 before he limped off then made 19 I think it was standing on one leg in the 2nd innings
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Moeen's white ball summer

4 innings with the bat, 2 runs, out 4 times.

26 overs, 0 wickets.

6 wickets in the last 15 T20s

1 fifty in 30 T20s - 5 years ago.

Ozzies will be delighted if he plays.
Not disputing that - but without Stokes, we don't have an obvious 6th bowler and batsman option.

So who would you pick?
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Not disputing that - but without Stokes, we don't have an obvious 6th bowler and batsman option.

So who would you pick?
Livingstone?
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Not disputing that - but without Stokes, we don't have an obvious 6th bowler and batsman option.

So who would you pick?
No point in playing an "all rounder" if they are only going to bowl one over and score 1 run.

6 bowlers and 5 batsmen - or vice versa.

Pick the best players in the best form around that format.
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There have been many a call for Willey out......

There was a post watershed programme on C4 last night on this subject. Not a cricket ball in sight....so I was told.
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