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Old 20th September 2018, 13:55   #41
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They'll give the tickets away if they have to. Whatever it takes to fill the grounds and make it look like a success .
Can you remember when they were re-building an end at Highbury and they put up a big picture of a crowd?
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Old 20th September 2018, 16:02   #42
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They supposedly aren't marketing it to existing fans but trying to attract new fans. I also think you over-estimate the marketing attraction of second tier players. It will be a disaster if they let counties run the franchises and the counties then just pick their own players. If you have outside people running it, it stands a far greater chance of success.

As for interest in selling franchises - I expect there to be huge interest from abroad, especially India. I think it will be easier to sell it as a concept (and a blank template) than to sell a franchise after a year when it has inherited baggage (half are then likely to have losing records) and you are stuck with a marketing strategy/colours/team-name not of your choosing. My fear is that concessions struck with the counties (who want to kill it anyway) will neuter it from the start.
Liam Livingstone, as an example, could be used to market a franchise team which is playing out of Manchester much easier than to market a franchise team based in Leeds or Cardiff.

As paulsre suggests part of the ECB target audience would be those aware of cricket but do not attend. Difficult to know how to market a sports event to complelety non aware audience and keep them.

No-one is suggesting the counties run the franchises, the ECB will run them (and market them) at least try and attract team sponsors if not sell them on. This will presumably entail employing a coach (and backroom staff!) as well as players.

Existing cricketing staff will be looking after their county teams, but presumably, for example, if Chapple's contract is not renewed after 2019, he must have some sort of chance of picking up a coaching role for a franchise, again helping local promotion (afterall he is an ECB scout, iirc).

But clearly Gidney thinks he (Lancs) will profit financially from staging the ECB produced / run event at Old Trafford, in addition to the basic county hand out. Also cleary Gidney (i.e Lancashire) at least do not want to kill it.

Not sure about a huge interest in franchises from India. Currently I don't think the IPL let their players play for 'rival tournaments'. Kohli has spoken out about it, why would an Indian company / personality buy into the hundred without high profile Indian players involvement?
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Old 21st September 2018, 12:01   #43
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Not sure about a huge interest in franchises from India. Currently I don't think the IPL let their players play for 'rival tournaments'. Kohli has spoken out about it, why would an Indian company / personality buy into the hundred without high profile Indian players involvement?
Indeed, The Hundred has been created for one purpose only, to get cricket on free to view television in the UK. It won't be broadcast in any other country.

It becomes a joke when the BBC's own cricket correspondent views it with such contempt.
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Indeed, The Hundred has been created for one purpose only, to get cricket on free to view television in the UK. It won't be broadcast in any other country.

It becomes a joke when the BBC's own cricket correspondent views it with such contempt.
It will be broadcast in other countries, surely? It obviously won't be a Premier League style mega TV deal but I'm sure someone will buy the rights in the major cricket nations.

My main issue with the concept of The Hundred is that they actually seem to be making it more complicated than T20, which they patronisingly seem to think kids and women are too thick to understand. That and bloody time-outs, I ****ing hate time-outs in the IPL. I don't understand why they need to introduce them when the BBC don't need to show an extended commercial break and you could probably fit an extra over or two instead.
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It will be broadcast in other countries, surely? It obviously won't be a Premier League style mega TV deal but I'm sure someone will buy the rights in the major cricket nations.

My main issue with the concept of The Hundred is that they actually seem to be making it more complicated than T20, which they patronisingly seem to think kids and women are too thick to understand. That and bloody time-outs, I ****ing hate time-outs in the IPL. I don't understand why they need to introduce them when the BBC don't need to show an extended commercial break and you could probably fit an extra over or two instead.
Me too.
Agree that it is more complicated than T20. I won't be watching, not even one match.
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My main issue with the concept of The Hundred is that they actually seem to be making it more complicated than T20, which they patronisingly seem to think kids and women are too thick to understand.
It is totally ridiculous.

If this is supposedly to introduce people to cricket, if they then go and join a local cricket club, they will be totally confused when they discover that so many of the playing rules and regulations are completely different.

The people developing it don't want to hear any voice of concern or views from anyone outside their own little world.
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It is totally ridiculous.

If this is supposedly to introduce people to cricket, if they then go and join a local cricket club, they will be totally confused when they discover that so many of the playing rules and regulations are completely different.

The people developing it don't want to hear any voice of concern or views from anyone outside their own little world.
Good point, I'd not even thought about that angle.
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My fear is that concessions struck with the counties (who want to kill it anyway) will neuter it from the start.
If the counties are so dead against this and want to kill it or neuter it. There is one simple way: tap into this:

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Me too.
I won't be watching, not even one match.
They could offer all kind of discounts and free to schools etc. for the 50 over county games running along side it. Considering many counties will be without 5 or 6 of their one-first choice day teams, it could / should be free. Market it big, especially where it is forced to be played at out-grounds and win the attendance battle. I'm sure there will be enough media types still willing to cover it, and prove the ECB wrong.
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At the very most I'd accept having 20 overs with 5 balls in each, a kind of metric cricket match if it shaves a bit of time off. After all domestic one day cricket has had different lengths of match over the years. But all the rest of it is utter nonsense, and I'm generally in favour of franchise cricket.
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Oh dear...

The key disagreement at the meeting centred on the spiralling costs of the ECB's new competition, The Hundred. With those projected costs understood to have more than trebled from £13m to over £40m, the projected profits for the counties have dropped sharply.

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http://www.espn.co.uk/cricket/story/...y-presentation
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Oh dear...

The key disagreement at the meeting centred on the spiralling costs of the ECB's new competition, The Hundred. With those projected costs understood to have more than trebled from £13m to over £40m, the projected profits for the counties have dropped sharply.

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http://www.espn.co.uk/cricket/story/...y-presentation
There's a surprise. What was than comment by Tom Harrison at the outset of this farce? Something like "guaranteed success".
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Old 28th September 2018, 14:57   #52
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I can see them scrapping this and fast-tracking in a 15 overs a side competition.

They'll call it F15 as in Fifteen-Fifteen but feel free to make up your own word for the F. I know I have.
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Old 3rd October 2018, 23:26   #53
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At the very most I'd accept having 20 overs with 5 balls in each, a kind of metric cricket match if it shaves a bit of time off. After all domestic one day cricket has had different lengths of match over the years. But all the rest of it is utter nonsense, and I'm generally in favour of franchise cricket.
I was a bit of a franchise agnostic in this context but with the obvious proviso that it always felt likely the ECB would find a way to cock it up. Iím very impressed with the hundred, even so. I hadnít anticipated any tinkering with the reasonably well understood and rather successful T20 format, let alone anything this moronic.
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Oh dear...

The key disagreement at the meeting centred on the spiralling costs of the ECB's new competition, The Hundred. With those projected costs understood to have more than trebled from £13m to over £40m, the projected profits for the counties have dropped sharply.

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http://www.espn.co.uk/cricket/story/...y-presentation
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i know it is the off season but very quite on talk of this comp. anybody heard any rumours. does not get any traction here in australia thankfully.
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i know it is the off season but very quite on talk of this comp. anybody heard any rumours. does not get any traction here in australia thankfully.
I think most of us are hoping it will just go away! From the little reported on of the behind closed door games at Trent Bridge, it sounds far more complicated than T20 for new fans to get into. And is just a gimiky load of toss.
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