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Old 15th September 2016, 08:24   #61
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I hope Carlson does better after his century than Donald has done since that fast double. Has Donald past single figures since?
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Old 23rd September 2016, 08:51   #62
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technically missed the teenage centurions by a month but in a season as desperate as this, Harvey Hosein scoring a ton at 20 deserves a mention somewhere. He's an absolutely top drawer glovesman as well so interesting to see his batting progressing.
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Old 25th September 2016, 00:09   #63
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So the final count was 13, which is more than twice as many as in any of the 116 previous CCs.
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Old 10th April 2017, 15:30   #64
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Dan Lawrence's at it again.

He'll face better attacks but this is a 4th innings hundred with his team trying to save the match.
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Old 10th April 2017, 15:56   #65
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Dan Lawrence's at it again.

He'll face better attacks but this is a 4th innings hundred with his team trying to save the match.
Was about to mention him as a young player who has - literally - stepped up this winter.

Certainly not a bad attack, either - Parry, McLaren and Jarvis are internationals with excellent career stats, Anderson one of the greatest bowlers ever in English conditions and Clark has two arms and legs. Really excellent knock, outshining several senior and very capable colleagues.

With him, Clarke and Hameed at the forefront there really is a clutch of exceptionally talented young batsmen of a similar age coming through at the moment.
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Old 10th April 2017, 16:55   #66
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Was about to mention him as a young player who has - literally - stepped up this winter.

Certainly not a bad attack, either - Parry, McLaren and Jarvis are internationals with excellent career stats, Anderson one of the greatest bowlers ever in English conditions and Clark has two arms and legs. Really excellent knock, outshining several senior and very capable colleagues.

With him, Clarke and Hameed at the forefront there really is a clutch of exceptionally talented young batsmen of a similar age coming through at the moment.
Be interesting to see if Rawlins gets chances to join the party this year too.
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Be interesting to see if Rawlins gets chances to join the party this year too.
He batted at 3 for Sussex against Cardiff Uni which seemed a little high, probably just as a place holder until Wells is fit or Sussex decide to go with 5 bowlers when the Saffer contingent are fully in place. He may not get as much chance in the championship as I'd hoped.
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Old 15th January 2018, 08:48   #68
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India u19s opener Privthi Shaw is 18yo and has already 5 first class centuries to his name
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Old 15th January 2018, 10:38   #69
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India u19s opener Privthi Shaw is 18yo and has already 5 first class centuries to his name
Interesting.

Anyone know
1. What's the standard of Indian fc cricket like compared to say County Championship Div 1 or 2/Sheffield Shield/Plunkett Shield?
2. How many domestic fc matches do they play a year?
3. What are the fc pitches like?

I'm unfortunately woefully ignorant on Indian domestic cricket.
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Interesting.

Anyone know
1. What's the standard of Indian fc cricket like compared to say County Championship Div 1 or 2/Sheffield Shield/Plunkett Shield?
2. How many domestic fc matches do they play a year?
3. What are the fc pitches like?

I'm unfortunately woefully ignorant on Indian domestic cricket.
Prithvi Shaw is extremely highly rated- has been since he hit a then world record 546 in an Inter school tournament. Hence it should suffice to say his record at his age is an outlier as far as the Indian domestic scene is concerned.
I think he scored centuries on his Ranji and Duleep debuts- the last person to do that was someone named Sachin Tendulkar in 1987/88.

I'm not sure how exactly to compare domestic standards between countries really- it's decent I guess.

There are 3 FC competitions- the Ranji Trophy- which is equivalent to the Championship, the Duleep Trophy which is kind of an All Stars competition- um- how do you explain it- it was zonal before but now there are 3 make shift teams playing against each other- and the Season opener the Irani Trophy which is the Community Shield equivalent between the defending Ranji Champions and a Rest of India XI. I think the total number of matches assuming you are in a good team in a domestic season is somewhere around 11-12.

Pitches are different across the country- they have made efforts recently to make green pitches to make more outright results possible hence there aren't as many spinners coming through.
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How many sides play on the Ranji? I always get the impression it's a lot, but I may overestimate.
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It's a lot, you're right- but it's divided into 4 groups- 7 teams each, I think... top 2 from each group qualify for the Quarters and from there, the Semis and the Finals follow.
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Old 15th January 2018, 18:15   #73
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Prithvi Shaw is extremely highly rated- has been since he hit a then world record 546 in an Inter school tournament. Hence it should suffice to say his record at his age is an outlier as far as the Indian domestic scene is concerned.
I think he scored centuries on his Ranji and Duleep debuts- the last person to do that was someone named Sachin Tendulkar in 1987/88.

I'm not sure how exactly to compare domestic standards between countries really- it's decent I guess.

There are 3 FC competitions- the Ranji Trophy- which is equivalent to the Championship, the Duleep Trophy which is kind of an All Stars competition- um- how do you explain it- it was zonal before but now there are 3 make shift teams playing against each other- and the Season opener the Irani Trophy which is the Community Shield equivalent between the defending Ranji Champions and a Rest of India XI. I think the total number of matches assuming you are in a good team in a domestic season is somewhere around 11-12.

Pitches are different across the country- they have made efforts recently to make green pitches to make more outright results possible hence there aren't as many spinners coming through.

Thank you. That had always been something of a mystery. I will keep my eye out for Shaw.

How does the standard vary between the Ranji, Duleep and Irani trophies? Ranji presumably has more diluted talent if the others are more like all-stars competitions. Does the Duleep serve as trial matches or can players get picked purely from impressing in the Ranji?

I presume the Irani trophy is the most prestigious one to win as it's named after the bowler who had Tendulkar as his bunny
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Thank you. That had always been something of a mystery. I will keep my eye out for Shaw.

How does the standard vary between the Ranji, Duleep and Irani trophies? Ranji presumably has more diluted talent if the others are more like all-stars competitions. Does the Duleep serve as trial matches or can players get picked purely from impressing in the Ranji?

I presume the Irani trophy is the most prestigious one to win as it's named after the bowler who had Tendulkar as his bunny
Hahaha.

In terms of the most important domestic competition, it is the Ranji. It is the equivalent of the Sheffield Shield/ Plunkett Shield/ Specsavers County Championship. Since it is based on teams from different states and a few historical cricket clubs/ centres (Mumbai, Baroda etc) that retain their membership there is more prestige associated with representing your team.

And yes, I understand the argument of dilution of talent. It's slightly tricky cause until 4-5 years back they had a two-tier system which while making sure the cricket in Tier A (Ranji Elite) was great, it gave virtually no exposure to the teams in Tier B (Ranji Plate). They are probably trying out various formats to address that difference and I won't be surprised if they experiment with some other format in another 2-3 years.

The way the schedule often is, the Duleep is right after the Ranji Trophy and someone who scores buckets in the Ranji would end up playing the Duleep trophy anyway on his way into the Indian team.

The Duleep Trophy in the current format is indeed virtually a trial for the Test team but since there is no actual entity to represent but rather a put-together team, the competition lacks to Ranji in that respect- also it is a much shorter tournament.

The Irani Trophy (Ain't sure if named after Ronnie Irani, probably not, but who knows) as I mentioned is the season opener and the Ranji Champions from the previous year plays a team comprising of practically an India A team. So, in effect, it's also a Test audition.
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Hahaha.

In terms of the most important domestic competition, it is the Ranji. It is the equivalent of the Sheffield Shield/ Plunkett Shield/ Specsavers County Championship. Since it is based on teams from different states and a few historical cricket clubs/ centres (Mumbai, Baroda etc) that retain their membership there is more prestige associated with representing your team.

And yes, I understand the argument of dilution of talent. It's slightly tricky cause until 4-5 years back they had a two-tier system which while making sure the cricket in Tier A (Ranji Elite) was great, it gave virtually no exposure to the teams in Tier B (Ranji Plate). They are probably trying out various formats to address that difference and I won't be surprised if they experiment with some other format in another 2-3 years.

The way the schedule often is, the Duleep is right after the Ranji Trophy and someone who scores buckets in the Ranji would end up playing the Duleep trophy anyway on his way into the Indian team.

The Duleep Trophy in the current format is indeed virtually a trial for the Test team but since there is no actual entity to represent but rather a put-together team, the competition lacks to Ranji in that respect- also it is a much shorter tournament.

The Irani Trophy (Ain't sure if named after Ronnie Irani, probably not, but who knows) as I mentioned is the season opener and the Ranji Champions from the previous year plays a team comprising of practically an India A team. So, in effect, it's also a Test audition.
A mirror of the county champions v MCC season opener, it seems.
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A mirror of the county champions v MCC season opener, it seems.
Except that it's played in its own country.
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A new addition - 19yo Harry Brook scores his debut century for Yorkshire against Essex.
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And his England u19 team-mate Will Jacks, with the rarer(?) List A teenage hundred.

110* off 94 so far, in just his third List A match.
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And his England u19 team-mate Will Jacks, with the rarer(?) List A teenage hundred.

110* off 94 so far, in just his third List A match.
Bowls spin too.
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