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Old 15th April 2018, 21:18   #21
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The trio you name were exceptional players. So were a good few others who played county cricket a few years ago.

My view was, and remains, that far from inhibiting English players' progress to Test standards, they actually improved the quality of those who mad the transition.
Difference between having 1-2 international stars per county and sides being filled up by Kolpak has-beens and never-weres.
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Old 15th April 2018, 23:16   #22
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2 failures for Hameed against relegation favourites Notts. Hes got a lot of work to do to get close to England selection IMHO.
Relegation favourites because of our lack of batting rather than our lack of bowling.
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Old 16th April 2018, 13:08   #23
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1st over Jennings out
3rd over Chanderpaul out 0
4th over Livingstone out 0
6th over Croft out 0
8th over Clark out 0
9th over Bailey out 1
10th over Vilas out 6
11th over Mennie 0

Lost 8 wickets for 10 runs from 10.2 overs
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Old 16th April 2018, 13:21   #24
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Notts 5/3 chasing 10

Notts 9/4 chasing 10
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Old 16th April 2018, 13:23   #25
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Remind me why we don't develop bowlers who can take wickets on flat pitches and batsman who can bat hours.
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Old 16th April 2018, 13:26   #26
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Notts 5/3 chasing 10

Notts 9/4 chasing 10
Almost as tense as getting the 10 runs from 390 - 400 in 2010!!
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Old 16th April 2018, 13:28   #27
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Quite

This 'morning's' figures 24/12

Edit - Yes Notts! Great start
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Old 16th April 2018, 13:30   #28
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Old 16th April 2018, 13:45   #29
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Almost as tense as getting the 10 runs from 390 - 400 in 2010!!
Lancs continue to embarrass themselves against Notts.

What on earth happened today? Did the pitch suddenly become unplayable?
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Old 16th April 2018, 14:34   #30
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No play at Headingley again so Essex, through no fault of their own, have had no opportunity to claim any bonus points. This issue really needs to be addressed in my view.
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Old 16th April 2018, 14:48   #31
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Lancs continue to embarrass themselves against Notts.

What on earth happened today? Did the pitch suddenly become unplayable?
No doubt it will be overhead conditions which will be blamed.

The contrast to yesterday morning somewhat staggering when Livingstone took the only wicket as Notts progressed from a wobbly 110 odd for 6 without alarm into a match winning lead!
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Relegation favourites because of our lack of batting rather than our lack of bowling.
But we haven't been able to bowl teams out in the last few years either. This is a good start!

What did happen this morning? Was it a minefield?
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But we haven't been able to bowl teams out in the last few years either. This is a good start!

What did happen this morning? Was it a minefield?
I assume just bad batting. Old Trafford is a test ground.

Jake ball and Harry gurney on a seaming pitch - good luck. Great start for Notts. I was quite surprised to see so many media bods tip lancs to do well. If their batsman score any runs then they will be called up anyway.

Notts will get lots of positive results this season so they will stay up. Big win for South Africa A and friends.
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No play at Headingley again so Essex, through no fault of their own, have had no opportunity to claim any bonus points. This issue really needs to be addressed in my view.
Long spells of heavy rain and low temperatures were to blame for the abandonment. This could have happened anywhere.
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Long spells of heavy rain and low temperatures were to blame for the abandonment. This could have happened anywhere.
One hour of rain during four days of scheduled play time. That is a shambles. I thought they had drainage. Maybe they had plans for drainage and agreed they needed drainage and then graves took a unilateral decision not to? I have no idea how a test match ground could fail so spectacularly.
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Many hours of rain before and after scheduled playing time, and I should know. Mowing the lawn has been impossible around here since about a week last Monday.

'struth, anyone would think a cricket match had never been abandoned due to rain before.

Maybe this is just sour grapes from someone stuck with Taunton for a cricket ground.
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Have to feel a bit of sympathy for Yorks........ok maybe not
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In fairness I doubt it has been as cold or wet in Taunton. It certainly hasn't been in London and getting really rather warm here! Summer '77 will no doubt be burnt to a crisp when he gets outdoors again...........

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/0/2643743

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Long spells of heavy rain and low temperatures were to blame for the abandonment. This could have happened anywhere.
But it couldn't, and didn't.

As always, I like to get to the very first day of the new season, and this year chose Sussex v Loughborough MCCU, which began on April 1, nearly 2 weeks prior to the abandoned game at Headingley.

As in all of the UK, there was grim weather throughout March, and this was the first time I have been pessimistic about a game going ahead over a week before it was due to begin - the weather reports were awful, of cold wet weather, and even talk of snow over Easter.

When I arrived at Gatwick on March 28, it was raining, and cold. I stayed in London up to the Saturday and with more rain seriously thought about cancelling my stay in Brighton - surely it would not be fit for play?

I decided to make the most of the trip anyway and go. When I arrived the day before the match, I decided to walk up to the ground, expecting the worst. Incredibly, it looked playable. It should be pointed out as well that there's a notable slope towards the sea end at Hove, which also stands for long periods in the shadow of buildings. After I looked at the ground around 5pm, there was another spell of rain in the night.

On day 1 they played a full day - 103 overs.

Day 2 it rained and rained. And it was cold and overcast when it stopped raining. Surely that must be it?

Day 3, to my complete astonishment, I take a look on Twitter at 10am expecting the formality of cancellation but no - a 12.40 start! They played through to close.

So no, it couldn't have happened anywhere.
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Have to feel a bit of sympathy for Yorks........ok maybe not
Lancs must feel somewhat gutted to have less points than a team which hasn't bowled or faced a ball yet!
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