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Old 20th April 2018, 20:06   #18681
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I'm assuming Ross Taylor was warned how much work would be expected of him? Especially without Read!
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Old 21st April 2018, 10:55   #18682
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I'm assuming Ross Taylor was warned how much work would be expected of him? Especially without Read!
Yep, he had better get used to it.

Our batting really is cack, luckily we have half a chance of staying up because we have a potent seam attack.

This one looks very tricky now though, a 100+ run deficit looks likely and that will probably prove decisive. I just cannot see us getting big totals with this line up.
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Old 21st April 2018, 13:40   #18683
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Our batting really is cack, luckily we have half a chance of staying up because we have a potent seam attack.
You should take a look at the Lancashire batting.

One player averaging over 18 after three completed innings. Top score 49.
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Old 23rd April 2018, 10:31   #18684
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Notts' batting proving what most of us knew, it's rubbish.

Someone asked why Billy Root isn't playing. Well, it's simple, th management prefer to give Jake Libby untold opportunities despite him showing very little. This despite the fact that Rot came to Notts' rescue last season when all looked lost: in the 50 over competition a third successive defeat looked on the cards at Edgbaston (which would most likely have seen Notts campaign drift aimlessly) until Root scored a ton and vatted with Mull to attain a decent score. Then at Hove when the so called batsmen had all failed miserably he joined Read and batted Notts to promotion. The guy has guts and a god temperament, has shown more there than Libby has in is entire career, yet Root plays Second XI cricket.

Let's be realistic, the batting is short on quality: Bracegirdle commentating for the BBC says it's a good top six on paper. Well it isn't, neither on paper nor on grass. Mullaney isn't a good batsmen, he's an OK one, who makes the most of what he has. Libby is poor and Nash scored runs against Notts but not against many others. The batting relies very heavily on the middle order to dig them out of a mess, but even Samit and Wessles are prone to early and silly dismissals

The bowling is OK, it's not up there with the top Division One attacks. It lacks penetration and a decent spinner, something Notts have refused to acknowledge for many years now. They struggled to take 20 wickets last summer after Pattinson left and the wickets became drier. I expect this year to be the same.

One cannot compare the exploits in the white ball formats, they are very different games and Notts will have quite different sides too. Patel becomes a good bowler in the shorter forms as does Mullaney. Hales will return too.
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Old 23rd April 2018, 11:29   #18685
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Surprised Root hasn't moved on, to be honest. Nearly 26 now and despite world-class averages from his (very small) number of games he doesn't get opportunities. Sure there would be a few counties interested if he were to seek pastures new.
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Old 23rd April 2018, 18:21   #18686
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Notts' batting proving what most of us knew, it's rubbish.

Someone asked why Billy Root isn't playing. Well, it's simple, th management prefer to give Jake Libby untold opportunities despite him showing very little. This despite the fact that Rot came to Notts' rescue last season when all looked lost: in the 50 over competition a third successive defeat looked on the cards at Edgbaston (which would most likely have seen Notts campaign drift aimlessly) until Root scored a ton and vatted with Mull to attain a decent score. Then at Hove when the so called batsmen had all failed miserably he joined Read and batted Notts to promotion. The guy has guts and a god temperament, has shown more there than Libby has in is entire career, yet Root plays Second XI cricket.

Let's be realistic, the batting is short on quality: Bracegirdle commentating for the BBC says it's a good top six on paper. Well it isn't, neither on paper nor on grass. Mullaney isn't a good batsmen, he's an OK one, who makes the most of what he has. Libby is poor and Nash scored runs against Notts but not against many others. The batting relies very heavily on the middle order to dig them out of a mess, but even Samit and Wessles are prone to early and silly dismissals

The bowling is OK, it's not up there with the top Division One attacks. It lacks penetration and a decent spinner, something Notts have refused to acknowledge for many years now. They struggled to take 20 wickets last summer after Pattinson left and the wickets became drier. I expect this year to be the same.

One cannot compare the exploits in the white ball formats, they are very different games and Notts will have quite different sides too. Patel becomes a good bowler in the shorter forms as does Mullaney. Hales will return too.
The top 3 is the weakest in the division IMO. Libby has not kicked on at all, Nash was a desperation signing.

Samit needs to pull his weight in the red ball stuff or we are screwed. We need at least two batsmen and a spinner to make any head way in Div 1, and the Root situation is deeply frustrating. Hales is clearly a loss but I think we would still have needed more batting even if he was available.
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Old 26th April 2018, 00:00   #18687
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Moores answer to that would be that he knows that the squad is short, but that they don't want to sign players just for the sake of it-they have to be good enough.

I think that most people know that they tried to get Jennings and Northeast, but they went elsewhere.

I have to agree that the batting is well short of what is needed. And I'm not convinced that Root is the answer either.Third from bottom will be an achievement this season.
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Old 26th April 2018, 11:22   #18688
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Moores answer to that would be that he knows that the squad is short, but that they don't want to sign players just for the sake of it-they have to be good enough.

I think that most people know that they tried to get Jennings and Northeast, but they went elsewhere.

I have to agree that the batting is well short of what is needed. And I'm not convinced that Root is the answer either.Third from bottom will be an achievement this season.
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Old 26th April 2018, 13:31   #18689
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And I'm not convinced that Root is the answer either.
But from what I have seen he is closer to it than Jake Libby!
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Old 26th April 2018, 14:11   #18690
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But from what I have seen he is closer to it than Jake Libby!
Indeed he (Root) may very well not be all that, but what more exactly can he be asked to do to get a run of games to at least show that?!
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Old 30th April 2018, 16:23   #18691
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Notts pushing for 2 day Championship cricket!
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Old 30th April 2018, 17:10   #18692
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Absolute belter of a win that!!
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Old 30th April 2018, 21:51   #18693
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Notts' pace attack is high quality and in these conditions probably not bettered in division 1. Ball and Fletch looking very good in this game.

Two home games coming up that look winnable but we will need to keep bowling bloody well to win them, for reasons previously discussed.
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Old 4th May 2018, 18:19   #18694
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Why cannot Root get a game. He looks a good batsman and has scored runs. Much better than Libby. Libby has gone backwards. He looked promising when he broke into the team. I'm not impressed at all.
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Why cannot Root get a game.
It's a mystery to many of us. I hope he finds a way out if he can't get a game in the next match after another Libby failure. He deserves better.
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Old 7th May 2018, 10:21   #18696
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Come on Notts only 7 more wickets for victory. Very good batting yesterday, Mullaney was brilliant and had great support even Libby chipped in. The wicket has flattend out but with our bowling attack it shouldn't be a problem. Samit has a lot of bowling to do today.
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Old 7th May 2018, 17:50   #18697
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Be bold, Notts folks. There may indeed be problems associated with a smaller squad and the likelihood of Test calls but this may be counterbalanced by the team's upward momentum over the last year....

.....Have faith and have yourselves an enjoyable season!
Any of you Notts people feeling just a teeny bit bolder with a tad more faith?
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Old 7th May 2018, 18:27   #18698
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Well we are another win away from relegation

Actually felt a tad sorry for Amla getting out in the end. Completely untroubled all day then mistimed a needless pull. Great win and good patience from Notts.
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Old 7th May 2018, 19:54   #18699
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Great win today. Good innings from Amla. Another 2 wins and we would be safe from relegation 😉
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Great win today. Good innings from Amla. Another 2 wins and we would be safe from relegation 😉
Defo worth an open top bus celebration that would be Amla also batted on all 4 days of the match. Which can't be something done too often I'd have thought.
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