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Old 14th March 2018, 18:50   #281
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Given that he keeps getting pinged for the same offence, it's hardly the most unlikely conclusion to draw.
I don't think being smart and being a bit of a dick are mutually exclusive.
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Old 14th March 2018, 19:40   #282
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Extremely impressed by Faf du Plessis's maturity
He's not adverse to clashes with Aussies himself

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Rabada is out of form but won't be dropped though.
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As ive been saying, Khawajas a pretender, lacks ticka and is very unAustralian, hes gotta go.
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I'd say Pollock and Ntini were bigger factors than Kallis chipping in with roughly 2.5 wickets a match.
Maybe he was just referring to all the catches Kallis spilt of their bowling?

And obviously Kallis took more wickets than that (so long as they were playing Zimbabwe).

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Well done to SA, too good for us this test, no excusses.

Warners carry on at the end of the first test impacted us negatively and inspired SA, it just wasnt needed, thats our fault.

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Old 14th March 2018, 21:38   #283
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Interesting article about the Warner / de Kock business ...
silly guardian stuff, as if only men get possessive about partners.
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Old 15th March 2018, 05:31   #284
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'The Final Word' podcast with Adam Collins and Geoff Lemon had the best take on the issue for mine.
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Old 15th March 2018, 07:38   #285
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silly guardian stuff, as if only men get possessive about partners.
I don't think that was the take home message.
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Old 15th March 2018, 10:33   #286
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silly guardian stuff, as if only men get possessive about partners.
Phil Cleary is obsessed with this subject since his sister was murdered by her partner.

He writes on this subject prolifically.

BTW, while I don't condone personal sledges, the line is blurry when Warner can allegedly sledge de Kock for two hours, then call him an effing sook as they approached the gate to go into the tunnel.

If you are in the game of mental disintegration as Steve Waugh liked to refer to it, you have to expect reprisals. Thus de Kock muttering something derogatory under his breath is hardly surprising. According to Faf he is probably the quietest player in their team but cracked under the constant barrage of abuse.
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Old 15th March 2018, 12:32   #287
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If you are in the game of mental disintegration as Steve Waugh liked to refer to it, you have to expect reprisals. Thus de Kock muttering something derogatory under his breath is hardly surprising. According to Faf he is probably the quietest player in their team but cracked under the constant barrage of abuse.
de Kock cracked? He gave Warner some of his own medicine and the bully couldn't handle it. Pretty clear which one of them cracked.
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Phil Cleary is obsessed with this subject since his sister was murdered by her partner.

He writes on this subject prolifically.

BTW, while I don't condone personal sledges, the line is blurry when Warner can allegedly sledge de Kock for two hours, then call him an effing sook as they approached the gate to go into the tunnel.

If you are in the game of mental disintegration as Steve Waugh liked to refer to it, you have to expect reprisals. Thus de Kock muttering something derogatory under his breath is hardly surprising. According to Faf he is probably the quietest player in their team but cracked under the constant barrage of abuse.
Makes sense in that people like him don't normally think sentences are too short. The cricket correspondent for our local paper said that it was a pity a punch up didn't result as it would have made the authorities do something about on field behaviour.
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de Kock cracked? He gave Warner some of his own medicine and the bully couldn't handle it. Pretty clear which one of them cracked.
Warner is not the only one who employs systemic sledging, Anderson, Broad and Stokes are all excellent exponents of it, and they, like Warner, have found a niche that doesn't seem to breach the rules hence why the umpires continue let them hurl abuse ad infinitum at a batsman. I believe this is what they refer to as 'head-butting the line' without crossing it. You can either go 'fair enough' for exploiting a grey area, or stamp sledging out altogether.
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Makes sense in that people like him don't normally think sentences are too short. The cricket correspondent for our local paper said that it was a pity a punch up didn't result as it would have made the authorities do something about on field behaviour.

Interestingly though, some of our correspondents made the point that Warner did more to harm his wife's cause in some way than de Kock. By drawing attention to the nature of the alleged sledge, he opened the proverbial Pandora's box. Then he flashed her name on his hands and those of his children during the test match.

This could have remained a private matter, especially had he complained to the authorities about his objections to the sledge. As alluded to earlier though, if he sledges relentlessly himself, surely he expects that some day he may hear words directed at him that he doesn't like.

McGrath famously put himself in a similar position too.
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Interestingly though, some of our correspondents made the point that Warner did more to harm his wife's cause in some way than de Kock. By drawing attention to the nature of the alleged sledge, he opened the proverbial Pandora's box. Then he flashed her name on his hands and those of his children during the test match.

This could have remained a private matter, especially had he complained to the authorities about his objections to the sledge. As alluded to earlier though, if he sledges relentlessly himself, surely he expects that some day he may hear words directed at him that he doesn't like.

McGrath famously put himself in a similar position too.
I think McGrath was in a totally different situation (he no doubt would have been thinking about his wifes plight constantly at that time) although yes I guess they put themselves in similar situations.

Warner probably should have responded by simply telling de Kock to "feck off you sook" or something along those line.
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I think McGrath was in a totally different situation (he no doubt would have been thinking about his wifes plight constantly at that time) although yes I guess they put themselves in similar situations.
Still no fault of Sarwans, a grotesque barb deserves an equally grotesque response. Though I remember reading that Steve Waugh blames himself for the incident, saying that McGrath was in no headspace to playing cricket at that point in his life and shouldn't have been considered for selection.
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Old 15th March 2018, 16:04   #293
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Still no fault of Sarwans, a grotesque barb deserves an equally grotesque response. Though I remember reading that Steve Waugh blames himself for the incident, saying that McGrath was in no headspace to playing cricket at that point in his life and shouldn't have been considered for selection.
Sure I wasn't suggesting it was Sarwans fault at all but McGraths reaction was more than understandable.
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Old 16th March 2018, 11:04   #294
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Warner is not the only one who employs systemic sledging, Anderson, Broad and Stokes are all excellent exponents of it, and they, like Warner, have found a niche that doesn't seem to breach the rules hence why the umpires continue let them hurl abuse ad infinitum at a batsman.
Love how a whinging Aussie manages to bring the Poms into a South African / Australian issue here.

If we're talking about England, wonder whether there was any truth in the rumour that the Aussies mentioned David Bairstow's death to YJB at the crease during the winter?
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By unAustralian do you mean that as a compliment or a dog whistle?



Maybe he was just referring to all the catches Kallis spilt of their bowling?

And obviously Kallis took more wickets than that (so long as they were playing Zimbabwe).



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That's the last thing I was expecting to read on this thread!
Im not representing my country on the field you dope.
Just say it how i see it, i couldnt give a **** how you poms or anybody see's me, its cute you think i might.
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I think McGrath was in a totally different situation (he no doubt would have been thinking about his wifes plight constantly at that time) although yes I guess they put themselves in similar situations.
Can't agree there - someone being deliberately offensive to gain an advantage is in no position to complain if the response touches a raw nerve - regardless of personal circumstance.
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It was a very Un-Australian reaction from Warner, wouldn't you agree? What a sook!
Yes i would agree, he lost his cool and was a sook, im not in his corner on this one.
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Love how a whinging Aussie manages to bring the Poms into a South African / Australian issue here.

If we're talking about England, wonder whether there was any truth in the rumour that the Aussies mentioned David Bairstow's death to YJB at the crease during the winter?
Wasn't there a story that in one test the Aussie close catchers made choochoo sounds at a kiwi batsman whose sister had died in a train crash?

The Aussies may regard mental disintegration as an important tactic but I doubt overall it has much effect on how successful they are, which is much more related to the ability of their side.

Oh, and fwiw, those three English players do themselves no favours when they act like gobshites. Which they do too often.
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Reading what happened in the Sri Lanka/Bangladesh match it seems these two sides have been a bad influence.
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"Sledging" is one thing, personal abuse is another. McGrath is a classic example. "Why are you so fat?" "Every time I f*** your missus she gives me a biscuit", is a brilliant response. When the banter gets personal then some guys just let it wash off their backs. Point being that you don't dish it out if you can't take some back.
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